EF ubers harassing newbie oriented radio station

Discussion in 'The Black Hole' started by Digit, Aug 12, 2010.

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  1. NotAdmin

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    I agree that the neg repping of the new accounts was probably unwarranted, as is the neg rep spree that Calyptoranius is currently engaged in. And yes posting personal info is against EF rules and I imagine that post will be deleted.

    I have no knowledge of the supposed contest scams other than what was posted in the thread, but having seen the way Calyptoranius operates it doesn't surprise me one bit that such accusations have surfaced.

    Regarding the blackmail, the implication was that if I didn't hire him to create and run ads for me, he would instead run adverts slandering me and telling people not to join my events. I had a long conversation with him about potential event link-ups, and even raised the possibility of forming a mutual partnership, but it soon became clear that he was not interested in events, only in taking my money.

    Have you signed up to his pyramid marketing scam yet?
     
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  2. NotAdmin

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    Cant we all just try and get along somehow? Let all the badasses go to RT:nutkick: and and all the good-guys stay on calypso. ;):wave:
     
  3. NotAdmin

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    I have seen the calyto guy buying sweat cheap "for the guides", i also know someone who was accused of scamming by this guy via his radio show and website. As for the competitions i don't know, but Northy from entropia maniacs is in no friggin way a scammer. The guy hardly plays after being hounded by this Calypto guy, just seems Calypto has a nasty habit of holding personal vendetta's and using his radio to harrass people.

    Thats my beef anyway, and tbh doesn't really affect me but just these things make me dislike him. The radio is great but why he pulls these cheap shots i don't understand, not a wise move.

    Posting of personal information is not good though, i agree.
     
  4. NotAdmin

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    That thing on his website? Nah I dont participate in MLM schemes (other than Entropia which I justify by telling myself that its a video game, not a job). I dont begrudge those who make their living by participating in them. People support ZEHX, a service which is obviously a scam full of attempts to phish your information. Furthermore, lots of folks make viable incomes through sources like Amway, Cutco, and various other perfectly legitimate and legal MLM schemes. Unless folks want to criticise me for making a living off Ultima Online, Asheron's Call, being a musician, and selling my IT services I see no reason to criticise someone else for wanting to sell whatever goods they sell as a middle man. Whatever floats their boat.

    That scenario you described sounds rather shady. Ive heard of plenty of those kinds of goings on within this community and theyre not at all something I would endorse. I have heard Calypto is a rather cutthroat trader, so this wouldnt be a far stretch, but Ive experienced the other side: Calypto has offered to help me promote events with absolutely no strings attached. I have yet to take him up on the offer, but it seems like there's more than meets the eye here.

    Could what you said have happened. Yeah, sure. Some folks would call that "Cowboy Diplomacy" and actually applaud such an approach. In real life it happens all the time. It could be that he has an agenda where my goals fit in more closely to his own than yours --- allowing him to be more libertine in his communication with one party and more sanguine with the other. Im not so sure its place belongs in a video game, but then again lots of folks arent so sure real money belongs in a game either.

    Good thing Im not a trader and dont really have to deal with this sort of thing.

    At any rate, from my personal perspective I enjoy Calyptos service and think he does alot of good for the Entropian newbie. Could his approach use some refinement? Sure -- who's approach could not, though? I feel like the community is doing itself a great disservice by bashing him, and creating a situation where there is likely little if anything at all. He turned Sweat Camp into a vibrant place where people wanted to go, instead of a pit stop where all newbies had to go.

    Bear that in mind when you judge him.
     
  5. NotAdmin

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    In real life it would be illegal and I think in most countries would be punishable with a prison sentence.

    I'm confident that if you continue hanging out with Calyptoranius, you will soon discover his true character.
     
  6. NotAdmin

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    As i discussed this with Lykke once to post it on here :-) i didnt because it was too personal

    Yet as the story is out now.

    Calypto is spreading lies on his radio and bulling ppl offline. He is saying ETA is a big and bad organizing and even calling me and Alice lairs

    He used his radio to call me names on the radio when his lackies started to call me names in the chat. hose got the warning ofc from MindArk.
     
  7. NotAdmin

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    Its a perfectly legal marketing tactic in most western countries. Pay attention to the Wall Street Journal and you'll know how often it happens! In the business world such Cowboy Diplomacy often results in hostile corporate takeovers.
     
  8. Wistrel

    Wistrel Kick Ass Elf

    The insinuation here is that Im a bad guy for not asking permission to post a topic. I dont recall anyone ever asking permission to talk trash about me? Yet it was done. This is a forum. We discuss things. We may be wrong, we may be right... but we discuss them regardless and own the consequences of those discussions.

    And your side seems to be doing the same via the forums, and ingame at this point. If you want blunt honesty, you both are acting like children, and a perfectly fair and equitable resolution would be to have you both banned from the Entropia service.
     
  9. Wistrel

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    I don't mean to be rude but this is one of the most stupid things I've ever heard. Blackmail and extortion are not legal marketing tactics. They are criminal offences.
     
  10. Wistrel

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    What you posted was not blackmail, nor was it extortion. It was a brash maneuver meant to tell you a simple message: youre either for him or against him.

    If this was against the law every US politician would be in jail for running negative ads against their opponents. Most British politicians would be too.
     
  11. Wistrel

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    wtf are "EF ubers"??
     
  12. Wistrel

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    Thats because we don't have ER anymore. So we transform EF in a small ER :D
     
  13. Wistrel

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    So we let claypto spreading lies about players , forcing new players off because they speak against him and putting bounties on head for disagree with him

    I dunno but you say he is so honest yet he ttried to hunt down a complete tp group in april. , he tried to discredit a free organisation runnign for over 2 years. He want to discredit even FPC sponsored Guides because they lie ???


    Think twice ....

    I have heard even more stories about him, from Oleg, inagme, and Ef where i had something like OMG.

    If i where you think twice.

    Btw magyar .. you dont like ef standard because you got banned there for attacking ppl personal on their langauge . I dont credit you much as well
     
  14. Wistrel

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    Hello al

    At this point i would like to point out that faye was well within fayes rights to shoot caly, we have a three strike rule, he broke it three times by stepping out of line. Stepping out of the line causes them to agro mobs on the other runners of the tour. Hence the reason for this rule.

    And yes, three verbal warnings were issued, explaining exactly what will happen if he gets three strikes.


    And also to bring back to a earlier post on ef

    The views of ETA Helpers outside of ETA Tour times does not represent the views of Entropia Tour Agency as a service.


    Thank you for your time

    Best Regards,

    Stave Petty,
    General Manager
    EntropiaTourAgency.com
     
  15. Wistrel

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    I'm on RT *sniff sniff* I didn't think my ass was THAT bad :p

     
  16. Wistrel

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    Rocktropia was my safe haven after I got bullied away from Swamp Campand Calypso by Claypto.

    Iḿ torn what to do because Rocktropia reall helped me getting my head clear.
     
  17. You are wrong, and displaying your naivety once again. When someone says "Pay me or I will hurt you", that is extortion. It's completely different to your political analogy, where no payments or threats are involved.
     
  18. Get your facts straight, Faye. I left EF in a huff because of harassment not unlike you are doing to Calypto here. The community disgusted me, and I told John Capital to ban me. When he refused I changed my account password to something random, cut and pasted it, and moved on. My account was listed as "banned" a few days later.

    As for shooting a hunt group in April, Id probably shoot a hunt group with you in it too. I dont like you, and see no reason to be friendly to you. Youve shown yourself to be a wolf in sheeps clothing, strutting along on the forums as if you are somebody who is oh so helpful, when in reality you only started hanging out at Sweat Camp again after you decided it was time to wage war on Calyptos Radio station, calling him and his listeners trash. Before that incident you were too good for the place, preferring to organize your infrequent tours and strut about with more established Entropian folks. You viewed yourself as above the new player, rather than a part of their experience. Now you hang around sweat camp acting like some messiah when the truth is youre just trying to manipulate the crowd because you have an agenda.

    Whats your agenda? Its simple. Your agenda is pride. Your pride was hurt by Calypto, and you are trying to hurt him back.
     

  19. What I do know is that when I asked him why he was saying he made free ME for ETA when I knew this not to be true he got VERY rude & VERY personal with his Insults towards me & my contry. If this had been a one off I would not have cared less, but its not the 1st time I have seen him being Offensive toward ppl.

    Calling ppl names & such is not cool & it wont make you any friends

    So things don't add up with this guy thats all I know.
     
  20. Wouldn't time be better spent forming bonds in EU and contacts intead of treating EU like a popularity contest? The radio is great, keeps people at swamp interested, but using that to discredit people is low. I mean wtf is this guy trying to do, world domination, president of Calypso lol?

    Buying sweat from noobs cheap "for the guides" is cheap, using the radio to discredit people sounds freaky and possibly a sign of mental illness imo.
     
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