FPC asking for help ??!!

I belive that all news are good news, if people wish to make it and it's in the benefit for the community - go for it :)

What I don't understand more is the need of all those tutorials, since a lot of Entropians already made great tutorials. My guess is, that FPC doesn't want to favorise one for another, and therefor wish to give everyone the opportunity to make tutorials.

Then again, we also ask people for help (HELP) to wikify things for example. Having tutorials is a great asset for a forum, so of course, it's also done because it will attract players to use the forum more.

The thing is though, that this is a community forum - this is 'our' planet and 'our' place - not owned by any planetpartners or anyone else speculating in the game. It doesn't get more community based as this, and what we do here, we do for the love of the game and the people playing. And that is the difference. FPC is a PlanetPartner with a lot of money at stake - and we're their customers, buying their product and they should serve us - not the other way around ;)

I see this to be only the start of the burgeoning competition between the different planets. The more planets, the more each of them will have to 'fight' and 'give' to get the needed attention and by that, customers. But this is business for you! And we cannot neglect the fact, that money is involved.

The question is how the different planets wish to 'keep' us on their ground. I know what I prefer over tutorials and cheap armor, and that is heavy content, great game play and a story line ;) As a forum owner though, I know that getting great tutorials for newbies can be near vital, and we also tried gathering tutorials for EP - but unfortunately we cannot offer armor or PED LUCKILY we have an amazing bunch of people helping out because of their honest wish to help the community. So despite the fact we can't bribe people to do some work here, I feel, we're the lucky ones :)

 

lol refresh, I added more to it :D

I also wrote this:

And I do believe that is what makes the difference! We're customers, we wish to be served for the money we pay.

 

Personally i think it's a very good move. It's more collabarative and essentially good in helping build a community. If they just made the articles themselves they'd have to employ more people for that and we wouldn't appreciate it as much as if it's written by people from the community for the community.


For the tutorials they could have used the existing tutorials from the forum as they allready have the rights to it but this is better because it's a way for them to show us how much they appreciate our efforts. If they had just given the award to people with existing tutorials people for sure would have complained about favouritism. This way they allow everyone to compete, which is good but has it's own drawback because people who may have written very good articles in the past e.g. Alice may not win. There is no perfect solution everything has an advantage and disadvantage. Given the circumstances I think the method they have adopted here is a good one.

So all in all a very good move for the articles and tutorials. In the end ultimately it's for the benefit of the community so I see no reason to criticise it.

 

And I agree with you too, George - if it's for the benefit of the community, I see no harm done either.

 

I definitely have a view, and I'm going to be back to post a more in-depth response after I teach my classes this evening.

But I will say this in the meantime ...

• first they buy the database from the existing independent forum
• basically capturing an entire community audience that made that forum what it is
• forbid us (EP) from posting certain things in the public area of the now PCF planet partner area
• which prevents us from reaching the majority of the community membership
• and now resort to what's basically (IMO) bribery to get people to write articles
• guess it's the only way to go since they couldn't get people to keep the front page active before

For years, this community spent time, effort, blood, sweat and tears helping to build that forum out of love for our universe, and not because there were big rewards involved, but for personal satisfaction that they were contributing toward the greater good of our community. Now there's a selection process going on to see who's good enough to make the front page and be rewarded?

I have a lot more to say, but I need to do something first, and then will be back after I get home from teaching classes.

This does not surprise me in the least.

 

yo ... I am a bit simple minded ... a forum owned by a company will serve the company's wishes and requests. If I remember right we all demanded it in the past: an official MA forum. But we didn't connect it with conquering the (halfway-) independent user forum EF.

Now it's MA/FPC's forum. They should operate it by themself. Comments of participants should get attention. But they shouldn't ask their customers for free help as long as they don't offer PED for it. I have to pay for each f*****g hunt RL money. Serious folks! Why the hell should I give them help for free, ehh?

 

There is a serious reason why I am here at EP. I don't want to be domesticated by a company and I don't want to help a company without payment. They do their job and want to earn money. That's okay. I have to pay for the service and I am able to decide how much I want to pay. Wonderful! But I don't get nothing for free from MA/FPC. (Sweat ... okay ... don't nerve with this BS!) I like the game. But I don't like to help them for free. It's just business ... ehrm ... RCE

 

What we have here is a company using its resources. Why hire someone for lots of money when you can have someone do the same work for table scraps? Sure you can dress it honey and sugar--but the offering is still table scraps. Also the terms should not be a surprise. Every competition MA offered always required you to give up every right for the works. Why do you think the people who get paid for this stuff are not doing it for free (mostly).

I just have a feeling the MA jumped the shark a few months ago. We are no in the era of a company shoving graphics and new mechanics down our face and telling us it is the same game--it's not. I still have a big hope for EU and believe there is still plenty of potential...oh crap I'm ranting! Sorry :)


Nothing to see here carry on.

 

LOL! Probably they missed the change of user viewpoint. Maybe they look throu Hanne's glasses? No offense, Hanne. But probably you (MA/FPC) should realize that the forum is no longer a user forum but a company forum.

 

they already bought all of the tutorial info and or links to tutorials along with all of the EF content that the community collectively built over many years anyhow. Now, I havent' been over to PFC at all, but is all of that history not still there? wtf. did they goof up the indexing or something. a-holes, i say.

 

i would like have tutorials written by MA/FPC only. Why? simple, so they will explain me how freaking scopes , amp, missing, evade, chipping, hit rate, maximum hit, etcetc work.

 

I totally see the points made by MS9, Lykke and others. And it`s easy and cheap for MA/FPC as well as looking to many that they are rewarding people with stuff even if it`s just pixels. But from another perspective who do you think would write the better tutorials? Probably the same as in the past....real everyday players.

 

I posted a comment to Hanne's barefaced calling:

Write your own articles at your forum! This forum is FPC's forum now. So do your job and serve the community with tons of informations. Don't ask for help from the community. You might offer a special section for participant's articles. But the front page should always be filled by FPC staff! This front page is kinda homepage of YOUR company now. Keep that in mind.

I am ready to write articles for your front page. Just tell me how much you pay per row. Since I have to pay for each single feature FPC offers to me, I don't like the idea to work for you for free.

... or ban me ... I've just left in mind ...


Edit: ... and oops! What do you pay to the former moderators if they continue? Or are you so audacious to utilize their service for free? ​