How Are We Allowed to Make More

Discussion in 'General Entropia Universe Discussion' started by syillz, Oct 23, 2010.

  1. Hi my fellow EU Communitiy, I must know...

    1. Is it wrong to make a Contest and Profit it from it?
    2. I make Video Games and Music Could i sell them thru EU(sending the product Download in a E-Mail)
    3. Is Thier away to create a Job Market For Noobs Securely?
    4. Can an apartment be used to sell items?
    5. Can We as the EU community Advertise This Planet?

    Thank You All Hope to See you in the EU...
     
  2. narfi

    narfi Lost

    1. Is it wrong to make a Contest and Profit it from it?
    nothing wrong with this, people do it all the time.
    2. I make Video Games and Music Could i sell them thru EU(sending the product Download in a E-Mail)
    im sure its possible, but not sure if it falls within the eula or not, thats beyond anything ive researched.
    3. Is Thier away to create a Job Market For Noobs Securely?
    not sure exactly what you mean here.
    4. Can an apartment be used to sell items?
    yes, you can purchase a shopkeeper and place it in your appartment, then the items you put int he shopkeeper can be sold
    5. Can We as the EU community Advertise This Planet?
    not sure exactly what you mean here either, advertize the planet elsewhere, or advertize your goods within the planet?
    I beleive you are only allowed to advertize things related to the game within the game, but this is also beyond what i have researched.

    It might be good for you to read the terms of agreement that pops up before the client loader starts, then you will have an idea what is acceptable ingame and not. Then ask questions about interpertation.

    sorry im not the best to answer most of this, but figured id put in my 2pec anyways.

    gl and have fun :)

    narfi
     
  3. RAZER

    RAZER Custom title ... uh ...

    1. Is it wrong to make a Contest and Profit it from it?
    as Narfi said

    2. I make Video Games and Music Could i sell them thru EU(sending the product Download in a E-Mail)
    I think it is not allowed to sell real life items in game and I guess the forums are not that happy with it if you did as well

    3. Is Thier away to create a Job Market For Noobs Securely?
    as Narfi said

    4. Can an apartment be used to sell items?
    as narfi said

    5. Can We as the EU community Advertise This Planet?
    With the in game add system you can only advertise in game stuff. There were add of other stuff in the past (some Dutch insurance company comes to mind and the US players have seen even more) but that had to go through a company hired by MA to make those adds possible. My guess you had to pay a bit more then the couple of PED's needed to make an add on the global add screens.
     
  4. 1. Legally, probably not wrong. Morally, it depends. If your goal is to make a modest profit, you're probably fine. However if you intend to make huge profits at the expense of the contest participants or prize donors, then you should also be prepared to face the wrath of the community when it's discovered that you're essentially rippng people off. I'd suggest keeping good records in the event you're not trying to rip people off and someone calls your business practices into question. If you *are* trying to rip people off, then may you meet many of your victims in a dark alley one night.

    2. If they are your intellectual property, this might work. Note thet the EULA does include something about not using EU for illegal activities, and software and music piracy are illegal.

    3. Probably not, but more info would be needed. What do you mean by "secure" in this example?

    4. I agree with previous answers.

    5. Since all we ever see are press releases, word of mouth is about the only actual advertising EU has going for it right now. I doubt FPC would worry much if you mention the game on other forums that are topical, but they might start calling lawyers if you take out a full page ad in a magazine or something.
     
  5. Cool Thank you guys for getting back to me... i was doing some out of game research. i should finish reading the terms and conditions i read a little Before i start playing sometimes.what i meant by Creating a job market is some how giving new players a start, as a Sweat'er,Miner or Hunter, maybe like a boss Supplys the materials Ammo, probes and bombs, and the boss takes a certain piece of loot, ore, or etc... As far as Advertising i meant Bringing more Colonist to the planet..i will not do any third party items due to the answer that i recieved on that subeject. i do not want to disrespect anyone or thing in this game and out of the game, i like it to much:) I guess im trying to find a way to contribute to the community... im still learning alot..Thank you for the information..Keep It Coming
     
  6. in response to AlphaGeek
    ya thats my thing with the whole contest bid is i dont want to come off as ripping people off, I have races i would like to do and is kinda in the beta stages, but im currently supplying the cars, allowing Sweat and Ped as a buy in. only to be able to give every one a chance not just the ones with cars, but in order to pay for Oil/gas or new cars for the future i would like a contribution, i dont see away to really profit in this game unless your spending big bucks on a Skill..
     
  7. RAZER

    RAZER Custom title ... uh ...

    I'm pretty sure you can advertise the planet without problems (then at least somebody is doing it). I would however not raise the idea that you are part of MA or FPC, that could give some problems.
     
  8. narfi

    narfi Lost

    EU is very "dynamic" :P

    There is something here to entertain pretty much everyone, through FPS type play in pvp, grinding type hunting, mining, economic study, socialization, baiting emotional responses from people, etc... there are a multitude of ways that people go into the game for their enjoyment, and they all work together to make it what it is, something I feel is truly amazing.

    You can get a lot of help and support from the community here on the forum, there are a LOT of helpful people. First though you need to decide what your motivation is. What do you want to get out of your "free time" that you spend in this universe?

    Do you want to play a social/economical mmo for free?
    Do you want to be one of the "Ubers" in what is known to be an expensive game?
    Do you want to help people get started and have fun socalizing with them?
    Do you want to be known for helping people? (being known for helping and actually helping aren't always the same thing)
    Do you want to profit?
    Do you want to profit a LOT?
    What do you consider profit? and what do you consider a LOT?
    Do you care about skills or any of the professions, or do you want to approach it purely from a business perspective?

    From your posts you hint at wanting to help new players and run events which can at a minimum support their own prizes, or even better bring in a small profit.
    Is this correct?

    Because of the RCE aspect of this game, people are leery of new "business" endeavors from new or lesser known avatars. The fear is that these people are in for a quick buck and history has shown that they tend to disappear overnight.

    If you want to do it for fun and help new players have fun the prizes dont have to be big, the fun of the event is enough.

    100usd would probably be enough to get you started and self-sufficient.

    10 cars x 60ped each = 600ped + (5ped oil each x 10) = 700ped
    300ped left over for prizes

    1st prize = opalo + 5ped of ammo = 8.8ped
    2nd prize = opalo = 3.8ped
    3rd prize = 2.5ped

    Total pay out per race = 15.1ped

    300/15.1 = almost enough prize money for 20 races

    do 1 each day at a set time, with preleminary heats to determin who can enter that days pay race = several hours of entertainment for 10-20people or more.

    Advertise times and locations well on the forums about your daily event and you will have plenty of people.

    Never request dontations. If people want to give you something to help with the prizes or fuel for the cars that is fine, document it.

    That takes you through the first month. If by month two you havent received enough donations to cover more races then depo 100more dollars.

    1000ped/15.1 = enough prize ped for over 66 more races

    Three months in now and you have built a name for yourself, have lots of friends, and have had lots of fun.

    Profit? no, but I am convinced that by then your events will be self-supporting and you will be helping new players both with fun, and with prize money for activities they may want to spend it on.

    If you are more interested in how to profit, let me know ill come up with another wall of text :P

    gl and have fun,

    narfi
     
  9. Narfi Your A Good man Bro, Two Thumbs Up on That... thats my thing right now im into more skilling and seeing the sights, i just got all my Tps done actually need two or three more really.. i bought alot of toys in the game so far.. when started i didnt know better(Coming from PS3 Call of Duty MW2 All Day Baby....)but i purchased things i wasnt ready for or didnt know the whole story on so now i gota nice arsenal and armor that sits and waits for the day i can wear it...i went back to the opalo and TT weapons just in the past two weeks, Do i want to be an Uber in time yes. but for now im learning the understanding of the game. i sweat now but when i started, i tried it for 2 hours on rocktropia(where i started) and i couldnt take it soooo VISA time lol...i think thats whats got me hooked on trying to make a better start. but not anytime soon of course but if anything a future plan, but i gota learn now as much as i can... as far as the races i gota friend helpin me with it, a good guy and seems fairly reputable, to me its in the beta stages bcuz the ideas and races spots i have the cooridnates for are pretty good.. but i am not trying to rush into anything either.. lol learning to take my time...thx
     
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