Scammer Discovered

Scammer Discoverd (TDO Society)

Thank you for bringing this to my attention SevvyS, in the most public fashion. Might a PM to me with your findings have been better? Rather than just a PM alerting me to this thread...

We will investigate this with all due haste. Could you please forward to me the text of the PM messages you are holding up as proof so I may review all the facts.

Once the facts have been ascertained, you may rest assured that appropriate action will be taken.

You are quite correct. And as mentioned above, appropriate action will be taken should it be proved that there has been transgressions.

Spike - The Disturbed Ones.

 

Scammer Discoverd (TDO Society)

hey spike, just for what its worth this is something we have been looking at for a while, rest assured what sevvy has written is completely true(unfortunately) you guys are a great soc with some of the nicest people i have met ingame, I did tell one of your soc to keep an eye out for a new member trying to join you, as i second guessed his next move, seems he was too sharp and got in anyway, which I am sorry about.

regards
EMW :)

 

Scammer Discoverd (TDO Society)

OK, would you mind answering this then.

What is the content of these downloaded PM's that you say confirms that ... and ...are the same person?

Probably better if you answer this question in a PM if you wish - as you will be airing other peoples private messages in public otherwise.

 

Scammer Discoverd (TDO Society)

Ah I see, this is about that thing with the mistaken trade?

You are quite correct that tha actions of the members of a soc define it. And when a member transgresses then it is up to the leadership of the soc, along with the rest of the soc to put things right.

And if what you alledge is proven, then ... will no longer be a member of TDO - as simple as that :)

Thereby retaining the core values of TDO etc.

With the Mistaken trade ting, a member of your soc made good on the mistake, but only after someone totally unrelated to the soc paid the peds back first. I would hope that Aboo got the peds back of the recipient of the mistaken trade.

But this is all another topic (however it seems central to your actions here) :)

 

Scammer Discoverd (TDO Society)

Your thoughts on the matter are noted SevvyS.

 

Maybe i misunderstood the opening post, but didn't you claim that ...== .../...... but then, why would he PM himself any offers?

 

Ok, that makes some sense...

Now, is there more proof than just those PMs? Because, "anon"s actions (to access someone elses PM account is a violation of privacy rights and rated as hacking - that he somehow knew the password is irrelevant, as long as he isn't explicitely invited he isn't allowed to read others PMs, let alone forwarding them to others) doesn't exactly make his evidence more credible... PMs are after all just text and can be faked easily, and when you post such accusations in public, it is YOU vouching for it to be correct, otherwise it will pretty quickly backfire at you.

Passwords and contact details can be changed afterwards on EF iirc, so with access to my account, you could as well make my account looking like i am his 3rd or 4th.

I'm not claiming anything here, neither that you are right nor wrong - i just want to ensure that we do not start unjustified witchhunts here - i've seen enough of that lately.

 

I have just been on MSN with EMW. We had a nice chat and I thank him for his time this evening.

However, he was unable to offer any proof to substantiate these accusations, other than he knows the password on 1 EF member account.

All we have is the word of EMW and SevvyS

Investigations are ongoing.

 

Yes SevvyS - further information has come to light.

Investigations continue, thank you all for you time while we sort this out in TDO :)

 

After discussion with SevvyS and Entropias Most Wanted at some length this evening I now have their evidence. Thank you both for your time this evening, it is much appreciated :)

And while there is cause for concern for the credibility of the people mentioned, for which we have taken appropriate action, there as yet, has been no proof of a scam.

Yes, there does seem to be credible evidence of duplicate EF accounts, one that was held by a member of TDO. But this is it. I have not been presented with any information from either SevvyS or Entropias Most Wanted that a scam has taken place.

I agree that duplicate EF accounts are untoward, and certainly something that we at TDO take very seriously.
As mentioned, actions have been taken in this regard pending further response.

I am not saying that a scam has not occurred. I am just saying that I have seen no evidence of this.

Where is the proof that a scam has taken place to justify the reason for this thread?

Should not it have been called "Duplicate EF Account Discovered" ?