Are planet partners leeching from Calypso?

It's only a repeat if MA let them at the end of the day its all on mindarks end the pps are fine its just mindark butting in saying oh no you can't have that yet or gun or imk2 RT version hell we have not got taming yet they keep giving us nerfs.
MA is a business just like a real life furniture dealer MA set the rules on what to sell.
MA have to manually activate some npc's as seen with Cyrene and Arkadia.
If MA give pp's more freedom and more access then things would change but MA is tight self centered.

I hope to have a planet where hunting , minining and crafting does not exist but pure hardcore gameplay to compete with other games on steam.

 

What a preposterous load of rubbish, George. Arkadia, a parasite on Calypso?

Arkadia is bringing in players, has a clear marketing strategy that has been talked about, and it is only a matter of time until it grows to a fantastic size.

I don't think I just believe that because I want to, as you allege we all do. It's clear that it's working.

I think your definition of failure needs a big overhaul.

 

The platform will certainly become a failure if too many new players and especially those thinking of playing for the first time read too many posts like this. As I see it, Entropia Universe is already seven years old, much more than that if you include the original PE, and so I hardly think that it's failing. OK, so not all of the PP'ships are getting all of it right all of the time - but what do people expect. However, I do agree that some of it has been a bit gimmicky, so any new PPartner that tries to avoid that as much as possible with a well thought out scenario, marketing, etc, should succeed...

 

No, it's not as simple as that at all. I think that's a dramatic oversimplification of the process of building a successful planet, and Rome wasn't built in a day.

What is your presumed time limit by which a planet needs to have brought enough players in the game to not be a failure? Your time limit must be a couple of years or less, yet you're comparing them with a planet that's been around for over a decade?

If I hypothetically started a planet with capital to last ten years while I built up a sustainable business, you'd presumably deem my planet a failure when I'm only 20% or so of the way through executing my business plan.

 

Deemed to be a failure until it can support itself. That's what your reasoning amounts to.

I think it's fair to say a business is not profitable until it can support itself, but calling it a failure while it's still building toward profitability is unhelpfully cynical at best.

On that basis, every business startup is a failure unless it's making profit from day one. Facebook would have been a complete failure in your book until it started advertising. As would Google.

Based on fundamentally disagreeing with your definition of failure, I guess I've got nothing more to say here.

 

Is this a post where you are ranting about how bad the loot is on calypso thinking it's due to the other planets and a lot of people moving away from Calypso since not much is going on there and a lot of new players can be found on other planets?

 

Some guy's who favors calypso over the rest. I will leave it at that thanks.

 

Now where do you get the idea from that this guy likes Calypso over any other planet?!?

 

Hi,

You might have removed the OP, too - if this isn't trolling as in the book, what then?

Have fun!

 

Hmm you can also look at the other way around George.

Calypso is still here thanks to the other planets. I don't think i would still be in the game if it wasn't for the new planets, i grew bored of calypso after many years there. And calypso still makes a very nice amount of peds from my decay. And i'm sure i'm not the only one still here thanks to other planets.

Although i have to agree on RT mostly leeching players from other planets with their markup drops, and next island is nice, but never did any good advertising. Arkadia however has probably spend the most on advertising in the last year. Won't comment on Cyrene since it isn't really live yet (except for they are taking their time).

And if there is one thing damaging this universe it's the attitude of some players on pcf.

 

As the case often is, the truth is somewhere between. He has a point in that the players on new planets mostly are previous Calypso players, at least the first couple of month, so in this regard they "steal" players from Calypso. I'm one of them, these days i am mostly plays on Arkadia, even if i still goes to Calypso now and then. I can also feel that they are too slow in developing the new planets and often too much unfinished and/or are missing when they launch their planets.

And the failure to increase the player base of EU are also a failure for the new planet partners, not only for MA. You can keep blaming MA for everything bad, the planet partners are also to be blamed for a lot of the delays and half completed planets. But to say the planets are failures are not correct, better do say they have a lot too improve and show us they can deliver good and interesting content by their own and also bring in new players.

Too be honest, the planet that are most suited to have the name "Next Island", is Arkadia. It's even have the look of a single island. At least the environment of Rocktropia and Next Island felt a bit different from the Calypso. It's not necessary a bad thing to be similar to Calypso, but if they want to compete with Calypso they need to have something that are different from Calypso that will attract players. With the new treasure hunting and the instances they at least are starting do move forward in that aspect.

But in the end, the biggest problem is the combine failure of both MA and the planet partners to increase the player base. With more planets we need more players, that a mission both MA and the planer partners most succeed in or we will have failed planets.

 

I wasn't really going to post, because I don't like getting involved in this type of discussion any more ... however, I have to make one point very clear please ... Planet Partners do NOT "steal" players from other planets, people make a "choice" to go to other planets of their own free will. Planet Partners advertise their planets, and then I'm sure it's a case of people wanting to explore and see what a new planet is all about, and this activity will continue to happen.

Planet Partners can absolutely have a focus on bringing in new players, and I know that Arkadia has definitely made the effort, and will continue to make the effort. I also know that Ed with Cyrene has always had a plan in place to market to new players, so ...

I don't see where any Planet Partner at this time is actively focusing any kind of effort to "steal" players from Calypso or any other planet. No matter how long it takes a Planet Partner to increase their population, or how much effort they put into it, players will leave Calypso and visit other planets, and ... by the same token, new players that come into the universe on another planet as their home base end up on Calypso as well.

It is so unfair to say that a planet is failing while in the process of development, and as was mentioned by someone else, Calypso wasn't perfect when it was created either, or even perfect now after what, 10 years, but the efforts continue to improve and make it better.

I think there are some incredibly unrealistic expectations being thrown around without taking into consideration the number of variables that come into play, and especially all of those we have no clue about. Also, how can you expect other planets to compete with Calypso who has been around for as long as it has.

I think Planet Partners are focusing on their development plans to continually improve so that they have their own economy in place, but again, there are variables that come into play that make it a challenge, and I'm sure we're all aware of what those variables are, I don't need to list them.

I think rather than tearing Planet Partners down, we should be of the mindset of continuing to be supportive and give suggestions and feedback in order to help make things better.