Loot Sucks.

Discussion in 'Planet Calypso' started by SevvyS, Oct 5, 2009.

  1. Even since i made a few comments about MA on EF.. My loot has been terrrrrrible.

    IMO this is 100% Evidence that MA can doom or boomswitch your account, as they see fit !

    Has anyone else experienced the same? Its only a small sample .... <30% return over 800ped Hunt.. I just gave up in the end.

    So yeah.. ive been doomswitched, which doesent really matter.. but i would have liked to do some hardcore hunting before i fill my ESIs !!
     
  2. Not sure about this, Ive sayed "MA sux" many times, on public chat,and few forums, but didnt affected my loot... It was same crap as before... Ive never been any big roler, but Ive deposited about 2-3k USD (not much I know, but my exchange rate is about 20:1 for USD), and now I have only opalo, pixie, 1750med cells and 4k of sweat on my acount... need to say beeing honey to them aint work tho... only one thing can help IMO... money a lot of money deposited... xD mebe then they give me sumtin nice... like one global or sumtin...

    ps: Im not whining, just sayed it as it is... btw,even chip out of my 68k skills cant save me, coz if I chipout as soon as possible, it will be in time of nice value drop... Iam one of those who believe, many ppl will chip out... any suggestins how to stay ingame and enjoy it? ;p
     
  3. Norbert

    Norbert Cartoon Head

    My loot has been kinda dreadful of late i have to admit, but MA actually have done me a favour this VU. Just before VU 10.0 i cashed out most of my avatar for a new computer system to play EU, but thankfully it is good to play Prototype, Fallout, Crysis Warhead etc saving me even more money.:yay:
     
  4. aridash

    aridash large throbbing member

    utter bollocks. this would mean that MA has direct control of the loot system, somthing very dangerous - a developer or other unauthorised person could screw the system.
     
  5. Yeah, i was being sarcastic about the 100% evidence...

    But my loot has been the worst ever recently. I would not at all be suprised if they do have direct control.
     
  6. safara

    safara Pamwe Chete

    They sure have control of the loot window. How else do they assign gifts to avatars based on what is in their inventory or the prizes the give out? These all appear in the loot window.

    Why cant this same process be applied to one avatar over another with looting mobs?

    Just clicking about :)
     
  7. aridash

    aridash large throbbing member

    direct injection into the database, or even just a simple gift subsystem. the loot widnow is just a graphic, and gifts havent always shown there, rather theres a dialouge box with the details.
     
  8. Norbert

    Norbert Cartoon Head

    Player activity in general seems down when i have logged in, so maybe just less to spread around. Depends on how you view the loot system i guess, but at the end of the day MA/FPC still have to take their running costs.
    My luck bottomed out but i did have some ok loots at the start of the VU, so maybe low avatar luck atm.
     
  9. Lykke TheNun

    Lykke TheNun In Loot We Trust

    I don't get it. Because the times I have been logged in, I've seen a LOT of globals and especially hofs. I'm not the one getting them though ... but others definitely are - and also LOTS of people I have never heard of. Which makes me think, SOME must get loot ...
     
  10. Loot seems to be dependent on a couple wave like functions.
    - A general one which seems to be dependent on total amount of loot available for a certain mob. Depends on amount of hunters and their decay turnover on that mob (ammo seems to be seen as decay) on the specific mob.
    - A personal one. Very little is known about that one. Higher turnover of decay seems to shorten its period.
    - A global/HoF wave. This seems to be time based and has some impact on the general one. Some people seem to develop a sixth sense for this one.

    The personal one seems to have a big impact on your loot perception.

    Cheers
    Siam
     
  11. Yep, I see many globals and hofs every time I log in too, but in oposite way I see many threads like this on forums... Its still more and more of them... Seems like MA is going to slpit ppl to three groups: 1)winners 2)those who can survive (mostly realy patient ppl who are taking breaks for longer time without heavy PED loses) and 3)those who pay for group 1... which group are U? Ican say Im in 3rd group :) Only two reasons for me to stay ingame now, friends and wish to see what will be new planets worth... And many friends are on break or quitting... So lets hope new planets will be cool enuf to keep me play...
     
  12. Wed

    Wed The one and only...

    Havent got much loot latley either. some examples, did a 1k ped atrox hunt and got 1 global, worth 88 ped. 30-40% return from mining, after markup. But i havent said a bad word about MA, so seems loot is down generally. Know my socmates are experience the same thing i am.
     
  13. Xaph

    Xaph Xaph

    I'd like to say I'm a nutter and I sometimes have a beer when playing Entropia.

    You posted on the 'sixth sense' which is an inexact science seemingly, I've been minorly flamed on this b4... elswhere;)
    However I'll expand a little and say its probably signs of minor graffics glitches, trends in fapping and loots that lead to the 6th sense.
    No hokus pokus but possibly MA subliminaly communicating with us that a hof is due or whatever....like the aliens do:naughty:

    Some have attributed HOfs to perception and serendipity gains, yeah the may correlate but not always in my experience.

    Nah I'm not proposing some weirded out shit, perhaps 6th sense is feelings based upon graffic events ingame and perhaps some neurolingual triggering... ie ingame decay and damage messages...that signifies potential = that 6th sense :beerchug:
    He who finds my planet deserves a beer :)
     
  14. Although I globaled yesterday (109Ped Longu), I just barely broke even after decay. Without the global, well would have been loss.

    Now I don't mind breaking even, because then I still have the skills. MA made money, I didn't lose money. That works for both.

    Now if I'm able to get good MU then I can profit, and that takes nothing from MA so why not make that the norm.

    I'd much rather have it that way than the ATHs and HOFs.

    It was fun cycled 10000 rounds, killed a lot of mobs, had fun, didn't lose.

    Would like to do it like that again.
     
  15. Thats all I want... Have fun and dont lose everything... I dont want to make big money here... I still take this as game, so I dont mind spend some mone, but Iam expecting some fun for my money too. Not just blackhole which takes my depo in one day, thats just iritating... And I know about many things which can iritate me, and theyre for free... ;p
     
  16. Loot has always sucked. The only difference I've ever noted is that when I started playing about 3-4 years ago, it was possible to break even most of the time. Then, after a while, breaking even became the global for me....:banghead:

    I do know someone irl who globals a lot, so I guess it's just down to luck and whether MA hates you or not :bduh: ( conspiracy theory )
     
  17. Everyone its obvious. I think MA did a total reset on the loot pool dynamics with the new CE2 VU.:puke:

    When I was active and mining CND , I was moving up the charts with Goldies and Hofs. It sounds like things have become even worse now. If MA do NOT want to lose so many account, they will have to step up ,with regards to loots. If they disregards and think by themselves, to recon on new acounts , big mistake on their part, peops arent stupid.
     
  18. MA most likely has the possibilty to adjust general loots.

    They certainly did it in for dual and tripleskill events. The loots during these periods are always terribly low, probably just to compensate the players additional income value of skills.

    With the latest double skill period at the end of september loots went down again to an awful level (basic average loot that is regardless of any kind of items). Only difference is that they didnt go back to normal after the end of double skillgain.

    One explanation might be the compensation of the huge economic impact of high valued items which are already hitting the market.
    Other reasons of the latest loot adjustement i dont want to imagine.

    From my personal experiences MA undoubtedly has the possibility to trim certain loot settings for all professions.
     
  19. molleke

    molleke The Ultimate Turp

    offcourse they should have the abillity to trim the loot settings. In my humble opinion loot is just a function of the money going in the loot pool (decay etc.) and a percentage <100 going out again. Somewhere in this function your skills will be factored in. If anything different it would mean MA is not making money and their financial reports already states otherwise. Now the % going out can be modified but I think do do not do this very often. My loses have been about the same for the past 4 years. I do believe however there is no way of winning in the long run. If you compare it to poker e.g. with simple calculations you can be sure you win in the long run as long as you always play the exact same system. A simple matter of chance calculations. You need ot measure over a very long period however. With MA it is the oposite. You are sure you will always loose in the long run. This because of the simple fact that MA is always winning in the long run because otherwise they have no rights of existense.
     
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