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The new Tier System [My Opinion]

Discussion in 'Planet Calypso' started by Knuckles, Dec 17, 2009.

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  1. Dec 17, 2009 #1
    Knuckles

    Knuckles

    Upon noticing the VU with enhancements being introduced ingame I dusted off my sweet old gun I have had since I had just unlocked Serendipity. I went out shooting Feffoids and looting some of the new components.

    1 component sticks in my eyes though..its the "Blazar". I forgot to take a screen of it but every Feff that has a Blazar has 0 other loot..and the tt of the Blazar is 0.00 so every kill is several peds loss unless I can get a few ped markup per unit.

    Anyway after about 900ped shot (Ammo and Decay) I get a message I have unlocked the chance to get Tier 1 on my EP41. Mind you this was exciting since I think I was the first to reach the chance to unlock. It also said I can not progress any further until I do the upgrade to tier1. I can't keep on shooting and unlock more tiers and upgrade the tier later.

    I eagerly pressed "Tier Upgrade" button on the gun and suddenly....I see this

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    I know the text turned out alittle blurry...but as you can see this is the recipe for tier 1

    1 EP41
    282 Lyst ingots
    211 Melchi
    1 Pile of Garnets (1 garnet refined = 10piles)
    226 Blazar
    112 Tier 1 Components

    I immediatly tried to add my EP41 to the ingredient window...and its REFUSED. I need a SECOND EP41 to upgrade my current one. There is no info anywhere about what happens to the spare gun. Marco has said "ingredients might get destroyed on a fail but not the item you try to upgrade".

    Wow..that sounds like the spare EP41 can get destroyed. Thats fucked up if I can be frank about it. Also notice the amount of components needed. I lost 370ped leveing up my gun to tier 1 and only looted 10 Blazar and I need 216 more. Imagine now that each one for me was 3ped+ loss. I sure hop there are mobs that drops tons of them so markup is low cuz I dont wanna pay high markup on it.

    I am hoping the extra EP41 thing is a bug. It seems like alot of the unlimited items require a spare of it to level it up. Avery for instance needs a second Ancient Mod Merc for tier 1..which is extremely costy and hard to do since the ancient MM is unique...

    I also hope the ingredientlist gets cut by a huge amount since right now it seems its gonna cost hundreds of peds to simply just unlock the chance of putting in a enhancement.

    So as of now my conclusion is this:

    THIS SYSTEM IS A COMPLETE WASTE OF PEDS IN ITS CURRENT STATE!

    UPDATE: MARCO SAYS THE EXTRA ITEM NEEDED IS INTENDED! GOOD FUCKING GOING GUYS!!!!1111 *

    *sarcasm

    .PS It took me 45minutes or so to get this posted due to a slow forum. I was one of the first to reach tier 1 on a UL item :viking:
     
  2. Dec 17, 2009 #2
    aridash

    aridash large throbbing member

    as etopia says, we're being buggered with sand in the lube.
     
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  3. Dec 17, 2009 #3
    Shinobi

    Shinobi

    Most informative Knucks, ty. personally I am not pleased with such updates that remove the fun factor in-game for the sake of MA-Ped-greed. They started that crap back when 6armor parts became 7 and the introduction of decay. How many gamers left the verse back then? many, if I can recall. looks a lot like milking the existing collonists for all they have, instead of Marketting their product properly to get more clients and moneys. I mean does Mindark realize that many accountholders are hard workers for the cash they depo? No respect for it?

    It saddens me that active gamers and depositors dont come together to protest officially and properly. Example would be complete cesasion of activity in-game. Mindark wil lget the message that their new implimentations are NOT ON. Not acceptable.

    I am disgusted that they treat their source of income in such a way. its imposed and hits with little info or warning. Noticed the extended info is given only after the update is implimented? Revealing and draconian.

    It is a spectacle to see 800 000 peops worldwide being crapped on by MA, yet they all just take it. Ye they smear emselves with it. Like a beaten wife who cant leave her wife-beating aggro hubby, syndrome.

    Cant think of a nicer way to say this. :shoot:
     
  4. Dec 17, 2009 #4
    Knuckles

    Knuckles

    Fixed it for you.

    I think this might be the worst "promise us gold and give us complete shit" update
     
  5. Dec 17, 2009 #5
    Shinobi

    Shinobi


    Interesting, why do they lie so openly in public and their existing D-Rated ads if u can call those that?

    So....Mindark is a liar! LOL how long are you guys gonna just sit there and take this crap ?

    What are the options? What can the community culminitivelly do? Make a stand! gamers make the game what it is.

    Is a entertainment game hosting company supposed to make this an unpleasant experience or pleasant? Casinos seem to do better with bells and wistles.


    I may be banned, lucky, but am deeply dissapointed about this on your behalf.

    Back in the oll days Calypso and PE used to rock, the comparison is obvious.
     
  6. Dec 17, 2009 #6
    Chopper

    Chopper Sanctuary

    Holy shit, you actually have to have 2x the weapon you want to teir?!?!
     
  7. Dec 17, 2009 #7
    Shinobi

    Shinobi


    By the sounds of it yes. I am so fumed right now....could catch snakes and drink poison. Now you understand why I started the MA Marketting fail discussion, I saw more of this crap comming grrrrrrrrr.

    I mean MA! Spend a little cash, market product propperly, cash flow will improve. Dont overfuck your income base like that, doesnt make you look good damnit! Not winning hearts and minds like this.

    Sure looks like they are desperate for cash. Now is the right time fo gamers NOT to depo, and NOT be active in-game. Let support also know with spam cases. Everyone needs to work together, ignore the pro-MA players like 700 and the likes. Let the rich brats waste their cash. Spread word in-game, everyone cease.
     
  8. Dec 17, 2009 #8
    Knuckles

    Knuckles

    Marco doesnt know how the system works so he is gonna ask MindArk tomorrow how it all works. Good job mr. CEO...

    Here is what I could gather from various snippets from Marco as he explained how he thought it works (since he doesnt know all yet)

    You need a 2nd item for whatever you need to upgrade + a list of other items. The 2nd item seems to be consumed and gone after a success (Marco does not know if that is 100% accurate) but I would assume so since I have never seen a ingredient come back on a success in crafting for instance.

    There is a 50% chance the upgrade attempts fails and a 95% chance to get the 2nd item back and only lose the other ingredients. Upgrading can get really expensive if someone is crazy enough to upgrade higher end gear.

    I will personally not upgrade my EP41 until I know the enhancements are worth the peds. The few enhancements being made so far throws me off also, mentioning they decay randomly so it seems it will be very hard to calculate hard facts in terms of eco.

    Luckily Limited guns do not require any spares or ingredients..upgrades for them happen automatically bust most L guns are dead before Tier 6 and the counter starts on 0 for next one

    Really awesome system isnt it? I wish there was a feedback button on every VU with 3 Options...Yay, Nay, Fire Someone
     
  9. Dec 17, 2009 #9
    Deano

    Deano

    all i can say is im glad i didnt deposit today lol

    im totaly lost with all this stuff.
     
  10. Dec 18, 2009 #10
    aridash

    aridash large throbbing member

    it doesnt matter though, because you dont have to use enhancments. except, they've rebalanced loot to accomadate the new sauce to run enhancments... so they are literally making you pay for something you cant use.:rolleyes:
     
  11. Dec 18, 2009 #11
    Knuckles

    Knuckles

    Yes I really loved the new balance of getting 10-15ped tt of new shit and getting 60ped tt less in just ammo per hunt and about 50ped tt of oils less...very nice:disgust:

    Since people are angry about the whole system I have little faith in selling anything for more than 200%:mad:
     
  12. Dec 18, 2009 #12
    Chopper

    Chopper Sanctuary

    CEO No, I'm sorry to advise Marco that he doesn't seem to meet any qualifications for even the lowest level CEO.
     
  13. Dec 18, 2009 #13
    Chopper

    Chopper Sanctuary

    Now that's a plan!
     
  14. Dec 18, 2009 #14
    Knuckles

    Knuckles

    Only thing that still interests me about enhancers in terms of unlimited guns is if the Salvage Rating is the chance to get the 2nd item back also during a successful update or not. If there is a chance to upgrade to tier1 WHILE keeping the 2nd gun it makes it alittle bit more interesting but not something I would recommend for a high end item.

    I truly love how we all gotta risk TIME and MONEY to figure it all out instead of MindArk telling us how it works...
     
  15. Dec 18, 2009 #15
    Chopper

    Chopper Sanctuary

    If I had not spent the past 3 years spending an enormous amount of cash and time on ul gear and skills to properly use them, I would be happy about this tier system. (with regards to L gear)

    Right now I can't see getting past the fuck MA just handed down.
     
  16. Dec 18, 2009 #16
    Lavawalker

    Lavawalker RETIRED

    Who says that even MindArk knows how it is going to work :umn:

    I thought you knew by now their system is totally unpredictable in that it works however it turns out to work.

    They would be really putting their foot in it if they supplied instructions in advance that didn't work.

    Damn I sound cynical today.
     
  17. Dec 18, 2009 #17
    Knuckles

    Knuckles

    Well I assumed they would be able to tell us if the 2nd item needed for the upgrade would go away or 95% chance of keeping it. Makes a huge difference when upgrading..cuts some guns upgrade cost down by 20k $ if it succeeds.

    Marco simply dont know the answer yet or he is withholding it claiming he doesnt know...I wish any of the other goons who work for MindArk and not FPC would post info
     
  18. Dec 18, 2009 #18
    wizzszz

    wizzszz


    It looks like the 2nd item is gone when you succeed, too - i mean, it is listed as ingredient... there is just a 95% chance that you salvage it when the 50% Tier up thingie fails - so it's somewhere around 2.5% that you lose the item and don't succeed in upgrading, but when you succeed, the 2nd item will be "consumed" and is gone as well.
     
  19. Dec 18, 2009 #19
    EntropiaPlanets

    EntropiaPlanets

    This is crap and I get so damn angry over it!

    ... to me it seems as if they tried to find even more tricky systems to squeeze money out of people. They sell CP, they come up with 'appartment/estate upgrades' and now this among other little things ...

    Is this really it? Is this the end of the world? is the sky falling? are there gonna be any x-mass gifts this year at all .... :dodge:
     
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  20. Dec 18, 2009 #20
    Shinobi

    Shinobi

    We can all bitch and moan and foam about it here, the milkers just ignore us. Nope! Do a Vitual strike, they will listen. One or two weeks should do it.:bigsmile::whistle:
     
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