Is this the end ?

Discussion in 'Next Island' started by Agis, Oct 14, 2011.

  1. I am sad to concede that this maybe my last time on Next Island, I have dedicated almost 10 months to see this planet develop , as my avatar has been if not the biggest player investor on Next Island to date , I have cycled almost 400,000PED on this planet hunting Drake and many other monsters collecting huge amounts of crystals and stuff, being promised so much over the course of the last 10 months , it maybe time to pack all my shit TT all my crystals and say goodbye to this paradise. Unfortunately all the other planet partners are releasing new stuff often and with the advent of the arrival of Planet Cyrene its time to decide to pack up and ship off.

    The Elysian storyline has been intriguing and have been so excited to be part of this amazing storyline, but with the revival game concept desginer/producer now gone, its going to be extremely hard for this place to inject new hope when all else has gone astray as a part of the original concept design of Next Island and followed its progress from when it was annouced almost 4 years ago.

    Meg was not around when the original alpha testing phase was in progress. but all the interesting mobs that were in the pre-testing stages never eventuated, and man it was so exciting back then, the 2 of the 3 time travel destinations has not seen the light of day and maybe was even canceled, the weapons they used and all the other exciting equipment in the pre-testing as well never came.

    The Elysian storyline is suppose to be about ancient colonists with the ability to time travel and became a lost civilisation in time (another exciting concept) another intriguing storyline to explore and discover.

    As of the 11th October 2011 in 10 months of going live and the 3 re-launches, Next Island is still nothing more than just a "shell" of paradise and beyond", the Facebook, Twitter revolution has destroyed all these original concepts, David Posts original vision was an amazing adventure and it seems almost everything that was pre-tested, what makes it worse is the commercialization tool that has been used in a way to promote Next Island to the world has been its destruction.

    Transformers T-Shirts, Dating Guests and interesting teaser trailers (btw not one of those teaser trailers have made it to the launch), even the elysian transmission teaser that plans for Next Island have really shown no adaptive storyline 4 months on. The newbie experience is a great concept - crystal center looks really good - but again is just a 'shell', broken quests, slow uninteresting storylines which are over within 15 mins, utilisation of the unique items introduced to Next Island has been extremely poor, nothing unique on Next Island has a MU. And the only blueprint atm only includes 1 UNIQUE next island item out of the almost 100 items available.

    The fact is a new player would be lost after doing the quests, visiting greece for the first time and getting back, lets look at the history of Next Island from October 2007 till today.

    The Elysian storyline was focused (but in another manner) right from the word go. Its seems that many aspects of the lost civilisation have shown up all over Paradise (Next Island mainland), Including magic , myths and ancient relics, some in fact are the remaining life in Paradise from the remaining civilisation. Paradise was the Elysian's "paradise" they all lived as tribes, many different tribes all over paradise each tribe with a natural ability and one was time travel.

    3 Destinations were available at that time, Amazon - the Elysian tribes adventured into the great jungles of ancient civilisations, massive trees many predators and a hard life to survive.

    Ice Age - the Elysian's visited this destination with strong warriors and the shamans , it was a hard to exist in this civilisation as it was dangerous, always danger around the corner, the Elysians had to craft ancient tools to tackle these menacing beasts.

    The Mythical Ages came later on in 2009, with Ancient Greece and Ancient China

    in 2007-2008 there were only Paradise (Next Island Mainland) , Ice Age and Amazon

    in 2009 they introduced Ancient Greece and China

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    The jungles in paradise were under the control a long time ago by the Mystic Elysian tribe, whereas the trees were enchanted (they came Alive), they protected the enchanted region with crystal clear falls and flying water, the Hydras were the guardians along with the Ancient Skeletal race.

    The wyverns (now called Drakes), roamed the skys - the Mystics were outcasts to the time travellers and other tribes as magic was forbidden in the East, the Crystals were used in the East for Healing and breaking down to craft Elysian tools and equipment whereas in the West the crystals were used for other means.

    You maybe under the impression the Elysian race was peaceful, some were but it was dependent on the tribe, as different tribes had there own interpretation on what paradise really was.

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    Since this original concept design and the absolutely beautiful shell of a planet we have inspired from the original 2007 design artwork however its sad to see something so beautiful to look at, have such a limited storyline 10 months on

    I personally think this is not Mindarks fault, as all the other Planet Partners are evolving there planet, it comes down to the over use and dedication to the social medias rather than the concept desgin and listening to the player community that spends ped in there world, come on - here are the failures that I 100% know that are available but poor planet management has led these concept designs go astray

    Ice Age Time Travel Destination (Cancelled??)
    Amazon Time Travel Destination (Cancelled??)
    Ancient China Time Travel Destination (2012??)
    Ancient Greek Item Drops (2012??)
    New Player Quests for Ancient Greece (Cancelled??)
    ie: all quests atm are for the ubers and even ubers it will take several weeks and alot of PED to get the reward after Stage 3
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    Blueprints (promises of over 100 new items and blueprints - Early 2011 - where are they?? - Shrinking crystals does not count)
    The Secret Gauntlet Quest CND (What Happened??)
    1-2 Blueprints per content update will not get an economy going
    Interaction with the fauna (like on calypso) - when (so far we are just walking through bushes without interaction no realistic physics for Crygen 2 )
    Moneymaking Incentive for Next Island - Sacred Boars (GONE ??)
    Moneymaking Incentive for Next Island - Deep Sea Shark (GONE ??)
    Incorrect HP for Pirate Skeleton Sea Artist (forgot about ??)
    Speed Up Drakes to stop exploiters walking backwards and not being hit (forgot about ??)
    Incorrect HP for Pirate Skeleton Quartermaster (forgot about??)
    Chimera King, Drake King (WHERE ??)
    No new mobs excluding (Buka Bird) in 10 months !!
    2 Types of mobs (named differently) on Ancient Greece (minotaur, cyclops).
    Promised Shovels (WHERE ??)
    Promised Fishing Rods (WHERE ??)

    This just outlines many many dissapointments ive had with Next Island , Promises and failing to deliver over and over again, I invest so much PED to get an edge on when the crafting comes , as on Next Island you cant create clothes without molisk buttons or foul bone buttons , no wood in loot on NI (No Boards = No NI Furniture) and all we get are useless promotional items jus to look at and nothing that can be used and without the blueprint book cant even craft the measly 2 Blueprints you have released that only utilitises 1 UNIQUE Next Island material. And frankly this is the end of line for me and until the development team starts delivering on promises, (Staff constantly changing is not the way to run this planet) STICK TO THE ORIGINAL VISION.. YOUR SOCIAL MEDIA DIVERSIONS ONLY DESTROY THIS BUSINESS LISTEN TO YOUR ACTIVE PLAYERS WE ARE THE ONE THAT SPEND THE PED = LOOK AFTER US !

    Cheers:)
    Agis
     
  2. Well said Agis.

    I'm curious whether you will get a decent answer on these very clear questions. With such a ped amount turned over, you definately deserve an answer.

    Good luck, wherever you go to (I hope you can stay on NI and get some good use for the massive amount of crystals you must have saved up).
     
  3. O.o whow

    lot in good infos collected together there
     
  4. Wow, very well said and appreciate all of the back story regarding the original intent of the island that is all but forgotten. I think you also hit it on the head with the social media venues you mention. That is the stuff that should come after a stable planet and an actual economy. Would love to see an answer.
     
  5. Well Said! Although I will be surprised if we get an answer to all of it.
     
  6. Tom

    Tom

    Agis, thanks so much for what I believe is the most informative Next Island information I HAVE EVER READ on this forum!

    So many people have wanted NI to work, to embody that vision seen in the release trailers, sensed in the excitement in Meg's posts, and I feel in some odd way whispered across the prairies, mountains and jungles of the new Elysian world.
     
  7. Sr Torz Man

    Sr Torz Man Freelanser

    Maybe it's time for us players to take over this mismanaged planet ;)
     
  8. Very well said, just posting to show my support for this message.

    Its sad to watch, what once was a great idea, fall flat on its face and grind to a gradual but certain complete faliure.

    From a thread i made before, the first part of the economy they decide to add was the cosmetics side? Eh?!

    Not exactly going to provide people with what they need to play the game properly and acctually have decent markup when hunting mining or crafting is it...

    Cant get anywhere near break even or profit through markup, but atleast we can look good!

    Can only hope they somehow manage to pull its head away from the ground and begin to acctually progress again before the money runs out and they have no choice but to give up...
     
  9. Showing my support, don't really care about the answer though, like all others it will be a useless promise.
     
  10. I didn't have this extensive a view of the original plans for this world before now. Knowing how big the plan was, the result looks that much smaller.
     
  11. Just adding my support for Agis' thread.

    Nothing to add. I totally agree with all the above

    jay
     
  12. Also just adding my support for the thread.
     
  13. Count me in too.
     
  14. red

    red

    there was a test server with a bunch of stuff on it that never made it into production? that's very odd.
     
  15. Lee

    Lee Forever Noob

    Yes, I remember seeing all of the promotional teaser videos and pics of several different 'time travel' areas. Simple truth here is that NI lost it's dev team shortly after launch (the real first one, not the ones that are just in words lol) and have not (for whatever reason) hired a full proper dev team since. You can't come from a completely unrelated background and simply learn to be a model maker, graphics artist, scripter, writer etc etc overnight (or even in a few months for that matter when you are also spending most of your time in marketing and promotion efforts, Meg has been asked to accomplish the ridiculous imo, hope Post is paying her the salary she deserves for being umpteen employees rolled into one).

    I came back to NI for a visit the other day, to do the last couple of new missions and get the new colorator (may well end up a collectors item :(), and the place was empty. No I take that back, I think I ran across maybe two avatars in the couple of hours I spent there. I had thought to stay at least a day or two and do some hunting, but call me emo, I felt too depressed since I remembered how awesome the place was the first few weeks when the dev team who created (and were very emotionally attached as well to the planet) was still there and interacting with us, the group of 'first wave' arrivals who had made NI home from day one. I sadly decided to take off after about two hours and I somehow doubt I will ever return now.

    Hats off to those of you who have stuck it out there for months and months, I finally gave up and left after about 4 months I think it was, when it was clear any money was going to advertising an incomplete product rather than to hiring a dev team to pick up and carry on with the work already done (and get at least one of the time travel destinations opened, they were already there, just had to be finished and opened up).

    Anyway, just to offer support to Agis, who was so very helpful to everyone those first few days on planet (I can't imagine how sad it is for you to have been so involved in the pre testing and then the launch and now to see it go the way it has, so much wasted time and effort by so many) and all of you who have held on so long, I still miss the 'old' NI, loved it there so much in the beginning, and so sad to see how it's gone since.
     
  16. People may say that I am rude, but when you love something too much, you cannot forgive people who destroy it.

    To Current NI team: you are worthless, useless and ignorant. How long does it take to draw a 3D model for new weapons, armors? To Mister Post: your money is being given to wrong people. They are just lazy employees, they do their tasks through big words and nice reports. You MUST listen to us instead of listening to your worthless employees.

    I'm not a fortuneteller, but I can predict the future of NI easily: you guys fails now and will still fail. If you cannot compete to the current empty Arkadia, or the underdeveloped Rocktropia, how come you compete with the incoming Planet Cyrene? I totally agree that each of players will visit NI once or twice, you may earn few peds from each of them. But that's not the way to make PROFIT. My suggestion is PUTTING YOUR NEXT ISLAND ON AUCTION and sell it to a better company.
     
  17. To be fair, Mr. Post hired people to do a job they are not qaulified to do. It has nothing to do with their work ethic, it's just going to take them longer to do something then a qualified Dev. It would be the same as if I hired you(lets assume you have no experience in construction) and handed you a blueprint for a foundation and said ,"Go crib that."
     
  18. i think ni team is doing good work just not fast like planets with a lot of staff. I know david is looking into getting more investments badly so they can keep things rolling ahead and I hope his all best luck in that because I still love NI
     
  19. Thank you for your responses, i agree it is sad to see the way Next Island at the moment , before this thread gets closed like some of my previous threads have been because i give too much information, but the info is out there if you can locate old website material from the late 2007-early 2009 and with a little help of some info from NDS but the storyline has been in place from the word go - the way the project was to progress all , it seems my posts do portray a negative impact to the image of Next Island, I have been a player investor and a huge follower of the original Neverdie Studios plans for this planet to work in bringing David Posts visions to a virtual reality as well as when Harold took over the reins and now has departed to another game company was probably the worst that could happen cause he was qualified game concept designer, in following the story of the Elysian Time Travellers, I have been more of a community representive on an unofficial scale, more than the official people have done, Jon Jacobs and Enzo Marius did a great job of putting together this fantastic paradise and even on the 1st launch in december we were all there helping everyone get ready for an adventure. Even though i dont really like NDS methods sometimes, this was a good start, but politics as always ruins the fun and Jon Jacobs is a fun person, he loves to be the image to the community of gamers, but as a dedicated player this place had the shit back then, now its gone !

    ps sorry about the first paragraph (mayes well not edit it now) as you probably understand what few words i missed out on but I was typing with feeling and sometimes i miss things - but i sure you got the picture.
     
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