Conquest forum game: Discussion thread

Maybe someone should launch a 'cheater game' or 'scripting game' or whatever, I know EU attracts alot of players that try to bend the rules as much as possible for their own benefit.

So maybe it would be cool if they could all battle it out in the ultimate cheater - backdoor - scripting game ;D

 

There are several allready..

I remember hackaday.com made a list of some

 

I am sorry for you if those are your real thoughts as you seem to be a very angry and troubled man. Or perhaps it was triggered by me and gomble bringing you down to 250 before I left the foul tribe?
Either way your "problem" with me "cheating" would've been resolved by a PM had you wished to, and would've taken you zero time.

Let me just add that I don't in any way see how I'm "a cheater" since what happened had zero impact on the game balance. If you went on a flame crusade when a couple foul players were donating troops resulting in game domination within a couple of turns I would've understood it but this is just silly. It's like banning someone for letting their wife play while they're at work. - without the wife and playing part.

So long and thanks for all the fish - this isn't worth more haggling over. I'm outta here.

 

Or at some hours of the day you better have your armory ready to spend all you've got as soon as possible.

But that won't stop me from trying my luck from time to time if not by no other reason just to see if he is a good player.

I was going to attack one of the 2 that I had failed previously
I hadn't decided which
Then I saw you on the list and you became the target
Had I sucessed with you (in geting gold) I would had bought more weapons (already had armory ready) and probably made what I had in mind since I failed to get gold and lost troops I had to postpone it

for those those who care this was right after the sucessful attack of Mkdesign

Being attacked while on the top part of the richest players should be taken as the normal event (and measures that I've mentioned will make it not really worth it to engage combat with somebody who follows them)

One of the reasons why I attacked, lost and continue to attack was to test the usefulness of combat and spy gathered information and to try to understand who the game works (I knew from the spy reports that both had less defense rating than my offensive and I was curious to see how lucky the rolls can be, in my experience so far there seems to be an advantage for the defender in case of similiar values).

 

There's your fundamental problem... ethics isn't only about you.
All of the most depraved people "have no ethical problem" with their shit. That's why they do it. You have to keep convincing yourself that your way is "more intelligent" to divert your attention from the certain knowledge that you are a loser who is unable to actually compete within the parameters of the game.

Do us a favour, buy a Harley and enter the Tour de France. You have the time angle all figured out.

Oh, and also, everything everybody else said.....

 

I expected my last post to hit a sore spot, but seriously, i just pointed out what you did overlook obviously - it takes years to build up a rep, but only moments to ruin it, i take it that you know the saying?

Of course you are pissed, because of this little "disservice" thingie - but are you really mad at me?

Either way, no reason to make this a personal thingie, and a big at the "pissed because you brought me down to 250" - i'm staying there on purpose... ;)

No, i had to stop you from doing more harm - i tried to invalidate your login cookie in the database, but i didn't succeed, so i had to "lock" your game account - but that is already nothing, compared to the posts i have to write because li'l Akoz got caught cheating and can't just say "sorry" - if you read my last posts, you will notice that i did not name who was cheating, you did that - now spare me your anger about your impetuous decisions, i am clearly the not the person you should be aiming at.

If you let your wife/brother/mother play, i can't do anything about it - but seriously, if your wife/brother/mother got nothing better to do than clicking on your conquest game account on end while "his majesty" is sleeping, well, then you probably deserve the advantage.

If you cheat with a bit more brain, i probably will not even notice.
You picked the script kiddie 101 approach, not my fault if this is too easily discovered.

And of course you do not see yourself as a cheater, because what you did was highly selfish, and people like that are never wrong (from their own PoV only, ofc...).

See, if you had 1 hour to spare to spend on the cheating script, why didn't you offer to help out with all the work we have here at EP?
That would've been something constructive, something selfless - instead you chose to spend this time on gaining a destructive, selfish advantage over others...



Sheesh, what did convince you? The "come to the dark side, we have cookies!" line?

 

amen, or make a thread in the darkhole


ps narfi give it a vew weeks its imho intended as a thing u click when u check the forum.

 

Narfi, there was no 2nd game - when the game is reset, you have to sign up again.


That you and Akoz claim you'd've won "the first round" is ridiculous, you perfectly know how long the beta test game lasted, that you managed to get a high population from the start doesn't mean anything, really, the game is meant to run way longer than just 1 day...

it seems you declared yourself winner because you are very well aware that you cannot keep up the dominance, especially not after the exploit has been fixed.



But, if one of you really needs the "we have won teh first round" for compensating low self-esteem or something, please let me know and we will find some kind of "Exploit award" to honour your efforts.

 

In all honesty though I agree that using scripts and other garbage is rather silly and totally against the spirit of the game (as is having a friend logon for you), Akoz is providing this community a service in that he brings these problems to the developers attention so they can be fixed.

Im not saying this is his intention. But it is a beneficial side effect. So for that, maybe a tepid thank you would be more appropriate!!!

 

Bringing problems to attention = PM the person in charge and tell him about it.

Silently setting up a script to abuse said "weakness" to gain an unfair advantage over others = Cheating



C'mon people, apply a bit of common sense, mkay?




I am aware that some of you do not want to think bad about a guy that has some ingame influence (this applies to newer players mostly, as they do not know some historic facts, it seems) - and it is completely fine if you choose to ignore facts - but seriously, bugging me because of your decision to ignore facts... is just plain stupid.


I consider this case closed now, as Akoz has been removed from the conquest game - he is, ofc, still welcome on the forums, but the conquest game will be no longer available for him.



May the better tribe win.

 

I know nothing about Akoz nor his history, though his behavior in this game seems to suggest something beyond a need to compete. He's not unique in the gaming world, though -- and his type seem to provoke the exact reactions Im seeing on this board. People have been running scripts, bots, and complete phony characters since MMOs were invented -- and the same tired arguments always are used in their defense -- up to and including that the developers should build a better game if they dont want it exploited!

Its a litany that after 13 years I dont even read completely anymore. Fundamentally and ethically, I agree with you wizz.

Thats neither here nor there though. I was simply trying to put a little bit of a positive spin on a situation that has turned into a little bit of a board problem on both ends as emotions flare up.

To keep it simple: Nobody will ever win this argument because it really isnt one. Its just one guy going and another guy going .

 

Well, thanks for the attempt to shed a bit more positive light on this, even though i must've totally misinterpreted it then (my apologies if i did, im a bit suffering from stress hormones atm) - but you are right, ofc, let's not give this story more attention than it deserves. :)

 

I sure accomplished to bring out the worst in you, narfi... seeing that you now try to tell me i make use of exploits... you think you'd be a better "representative" with such behaviour? Trust me, you're surely not "helping" here.


However, just stop claiming you've "won the first round", this is so far off, it's laughable - i did a cleanup, the game has not been reset (because of your exploits), and well, you managed to gain a temporary dominant position, due to exploits... which is already dwindling quickly... nice "win" you claim there.

And just for the records:
I didn't even comment on your suggestions regarding the game settings, nor have i hinted that you should leave the game.

 

Google missions are cool if the "dungeon keeper" is a great person (you're welcome to come up with more since you've proven yourself to be so multiple times in the past)

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