Entropia News: Controlled Mobs

Can you back up your statement "first learned about it when user controlled creatures were used by Planet Calypso AB last week"? More likely all the planet partners got the information about the new system in some release information from MA.

 

Well, Ed of Cyrene stated this:

 

Granted, it looks like a fun feature, and it will be interesting to see what the community thinks after their experiences over time. Some might think currently that MindArk should focus on other things that need their attention more, rather than generating a new method of getting players to consume more ammo and decay.

Just sayin' ... despite the potential fun factor ... there always seems to be a diversion without continued focus on aspects of the game where we only hear intentions without results. It's already been established that MA's development staff isn't that large, and that's actually one of the excuses that many use for why MA isn't faster with new development or fixing things, but it seems that those who use this excuse forget about it when something new has been added.

Let's see how the PPs utilize this new feature and how well it's received ... it could be a good thing, but we won't know until the ultimate test of time tells us.

@ Airboy ... you might also benefit from being more open-minded to (the fact) that Calypso is definitely favored by MindArk, and this has been a contention of discussion in the past. It was also reported in an interview with Planet Calypso's game designer Joakim Antonsson that MindArk and Calypso game designers are interchangeable ...

Therefore, it's a natural and plausible conclusion that Calypso knows more about what's going on behind the scenes than other PPs, and that's all I'll say at this point in time, other than many in the community have already publicly voiced their opinions regarding Calypso favoritism based on what they have witnessed first-hand ... that the Calypso staff were able to do things that other PPs weren't, and Kim seems to give an impression of "knowing things" that even pertain to other PPs.

For instance, you can see what I mean with the following since you seem to ask for references when someone shares information sometimes. It was Cyrene that introduced their vision of the Mechs, along with exclusive photos and sketches quite some time ago, but Ed Robles also mentioned that Kim was working with the team that he proposed this system to at the time ...

If you don't think with all the information that has been posted out there, that Calypso isn't favored, even based on comments made by Kim himself who seems to want the community to know what he has access to and what he knows, then you're living in a virtual rabbit hole.

BTW ... enjoy these comments made by Kim himself at PCF ... here, here, (as a competing PP, how does he know this), and here, (also, how would he know this information about ROCKtropia as a competing PP).

 

Another stupid addition when they could be fixing my items that are broken!
Can I get a fucktard icon?

 

Of course I understand that Kim sometimes know more than others about what is going on at MA, he is the son of the boss and biggest owner in MA, so it would be very strange if they did not talk about what was going. And yes, Kim have work at MA so if it was before he was transferred to the Calypso company, it's not strange that he was on a MA design team, because he was working for MA, so what is strange about that? I also read some comments that the Mechs concept actually was originally from the Theryon War team, I don't know if the is correct or not.

That is far from saying that they saw it on Calypso first, I read it more like "We got the information at the same time as the VU was launched".

 

The comments I quoted from Kim happened long after he's been a part of the Calypso team, which has been for quite some time now, and not when he was part of MindArk. He is a competing PP, and he should not have information pertaining to specifics regarding other PPs. He's on the Calypso development team, but is not the CEO of Calypso. However, even the CEO of Calypso shouldn't know about details regarding other PPs. This is how ideas get stolen, and they have been, just for the record.

Also, if memory serves me correctly ... Theryon Wars was all about a space environment, and they were introduced after Cyrene, as was Toulan.

Just checked, and Theryon Wars mentioned a Mech in 2011, and Cyrene was being discussed in 2009.

 

heh, MindStar, you are starting to play with words again and make up your own rumors again here.

The system he states above is the Mesh system and why it wasn't released and more why they haven't said anything about why it wasn't released yet. He went on to explain why he opened up and that was due to Kim stating that the Mech system isn't possible and most likely will not be a feature coming out anytime soon to game.

Also please spend the time to search for it, but the CEO of Arkadia stated once that it was in the contract that any item any PP makes can be used by Mindark. They know full well that Mindark can and will take any of their ideas and use it for all of EU.

 

Please read my post again, because I DID refer to those quotes as what Ed said about the Mech system and how he related the information regarding Kim, and I am NOT making up rumors whatsoever ... everything is in black and white if you care to read such. I have given links to support what I posted. Perhaps it is you who needs to tune in OZ, and stop looking for every opportunity possible to slam my posts.

With regard to your other statement about "any item a PP makes can be used by MindArk" ... you need to be better informed before you make a statement like that. PPs can request a specific system, and if granted, the PP can have exclusivity for a period of time before it's allowed to be used on any other planet, or by any other PP.

Regarding items, tell me what items specifically that were created by a PP that MindArk uses please, because MA is a platform developer, not a PP, and they make great effort to get us to believe that they and Calypso aren't the same ... technically they are on paper, but we all know otherwise.

It would be appreciated if YOU bring evidence to support your statements as others do and not just sling arrows in hopes that someone will buy your comments blindly.

 

Yes I was referring to the treasure hunting system on Arkadia and David pointed this out when people were up in arms that this system was seen on other planets as well.

 

As an afterthought ... please point me in the direction with a link at PCF please that shows where Calypso was ever talking about creating Mechs before Cyrene introduced them in an exclusive thread at EP.

Your comment is very vague and I'm not understanding, because I think some information is missing from what you shared, so ... here are some questions for you:

• Are you saying that the Treasure Hunting system was available on other planets at the same time it was introduced on Arkadia
• If so, what planets are you talking about specifically please
• Is the Treasure Hunting system still available on other planets
• If this system is available on other planets, was it a period of time after introduced on Arkadia
• If so, then the exclusivity of the system that relates to "Arkadia only" has expired

Please be better informed and ready to support your statements next time you decide to challenge my posts. Thank You!

 

So OZ ... by adding a "Funny" smiley face to my post, that means that it's your best response and you won't be answering the questions I posed?

I give you substance with valid questions and you give me a smiley face ... that's telling, you know that, right? That's how people respond when they don't have anything of value to contribute ... that and being rude, because they can't bring a valid argument.

If you want to prove me a "rumor monger" or someone posting superfluous stuff, then engage in an evidentiary task of finding proof to support your accusations, because you haven't.

 

Another one bites the dust...

 

I'm not going to play this game of war of words with you. You asked me for a system and I told you and then you went on wanting to fight more about it. EOT

 

I didn't want to fight about it OZ ... I wanted you to answer some questions, because the response you gave was not clear. I know for fact that PPs can ask for specific systems, and those systems if granted by MA can come with an exclusive period of time before other PPs can use them. I merely asked you to clarify what you were stating.

Also, you were accusing me of creating rumors and making false statements, which I absolutely did nothing of the sort, so ... I also asked you to bring me substance that proves such, as well as where it states at PCF that Calypso was ever talking about Mechs before Cyrene introduced them in an exclusive thread at EP.

Apparently, you are not taking my requests as valid inquiries based on what you posted, so I have nothing to do but to think that there is no further information you can share.

On-Topic:

I hope this new "controlled mob" feature is something that will work out, but as I mentioned above, it's a wait and see proposition, and the litmus test results will be provided by the community-at-large. It's really that simple, because the community of players are the ultimate definers of what works and doesn't work.

 

Wonder if this is a 'first step' towards mobs controlled by participants, which is something some have asked for in wishlist threads for years?

 

Aye, I did a vague spec for it some years ago based on someone else's initial suggestion MA have mentioned in their 2014 address that the system may get extended to players based on skill level in time. I wonder if they ever read that thread or how closely their eventual system will resemble what we wrote. It won't be exact though, cause what we proposed was actually a little broken and had room for exploits... oh wait, maybe it will then ,-)

Wistrel

 

It's not like Mechs are new concept that someone suddenly have invented, so it's not strange the have similar ideas, and Mechs have been mentioned in Calypso storyline and you could find remains from mechs on the pre VU10 battlefields of Calypso. I also don't understand what the problem is, because if Calypso know or don't know that a Mech system is coming don't matter if Cyrene still get their period of exclusive use.

 

Would love to see mechs!! :D
Or if this is a prelude to taming, I would be just as happy! :)