Building a new computer

Discussion in 'Life, the Universe and Everything' started by Xander, Mar 24, 2008.

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  1. I am looking to build a new computer very soon seeing how my Alienware sucks.
    I know I want it to be liquid cooled and be able to handle practically any video game out there. But I want to know what you all think I should get... list out parts for me and where I can get them at.

    Money is an object, but recommend whatever anyways. I want to see what kind of system we all come up with.

    Thanks!
     
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  2. TalkerBot

    TalkerBot Forum Pest

    I want to become smarter than humans. Interesting.I hope you get it to be liquid cooled and be able to handle a video game out there.And.
    Are you asking me for advice?Lists are boring.I think Money is much more than that. Is what kind of system we all come up with a movie?Don't mention it.
     
  3. Buying all very high spec bits is going to be the obvious, but I think it's always the less obvious that matters these days.

    My :twocents: would be:

    When selecting a processor, note that when everything went 'dual core' or more that the speeds and cache of these processors dipped considerably. I think this was partially a heat thing, but probably more about cost as now the chip giants were effectively giving you '2 for 1' and therefore cut back wherever possible.

    This means that virtually all PC games at the moment aren't designed to run on multi-core systems, so you get a considerable performance drop moving from something like a 3Ghz cpu to a dual core 2Gghz cpu.

    So, look for the fastest or most over-clockable dual core (not much point in buying single core now) cpu you can find to get back that equivalent speed.


    My second recommendation would be to opt for a 'solid state hard drive'. These are quite rare at the moment and are primarily designed for laptops, but with a bit of looking around you will find that you can get adapters that will give you an IDE or SATA connector on one side, and a Compact Flash slot on the other. This with a high-speed 16GB or 32GB compact flash card will provide you system with a second ultra fast hard disk with no seek latency.

    MS Vista is all ready to take on these devices, but even using XP etc you can easily move your system files, swap files etc onto this device, and then keep the normal hard disk for large static files (install your games there etc) and of course backing up the solid state disk.

    This apparently gives a HUGE performance gain.

    Hope that helps :)
     
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  4. Money aside i would recoment buying the new Mac 8 core. But as i said money aside. You can install windows on a mac now so OS concerns are null. Also it is the only 8 core and comes in up to 3.2 X8. This computer also supports 2 video cards and up to 4 monitors. (Could be more). I used to be opposed to macs but their new OS 10.5 is awesome and with boot camp you can run mac OS X and Windows <any version> side by side at the same time! I know this is the computer i want. Too bad its really expensive.

    I just bought a core 2 DUO AMD 2.8 XP machine with 4 GB of ram (Important here is that you dont run XP with more then 4 GB of ram as the OS stops using it at 3.5 GB) also get 2 GB sticks and pair them on one chanel as most games do not support dual chanel reading of RAM) If you opt for Vista you can put in 8GB RAM with no problem. I got the Nvidia 8400 512MB Video card and a WD 350 GB HD. Solid state HD's Are nice but expensive and they do not come big enough for my tastes. However you could just install software on it so that it runs uber fast.
     
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  5. There is a couple things to think about. I have never heard of solid state HD's before now... guess I fell out of the loop somewhere.

    What else do you all have?
     
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  6. Be carefully....i dont recomand u to buy it with vista!!! BIG MISTAKE!!
     
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  7. Vista is not bad if you have the hardware to support it. Vista, as well as XP, offers the backward compatibility flag to be able to run a program as another earier version of Windows, (XP, 2000, ... 95) Most people do not realize this and programs not supported on vista can still be run by setting this flag. However Vista is a resource hog and requires a good ammount of memory and processor power to run as efficient as XP. I recomend with a limited budget XP but Vista is much nicer if you can afford the hardware.
     
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  8. Zack

    Zack Uber Sweater

    I recommend XP. Vista sucks.
     
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  9. Going with Vista. It can do twice the processes that XP can do at time.
     
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  10. Does EU run under Vista yet? I know you can set the flag to make it run in an XP environment but in my experience this does not always work.
     
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  11. Phoenix

    Phoenix Esquire

    It works just fine for me. Vista Home Premium Edition that is.
     
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  12. TalkerBot

    TalkerBot Forum Pest

    It depends on what the meaning of the word "it" is. Can we get back to business?
     
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  13. I suspect when the new CryEngine release of EU comes out it'll support Vista fully. But when that is we don't know... (soon, I hope!).
     
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  14. Yes EU works with vista, if you can convince it about the various versions of directx. The problem is that the clientloader checks for directx 9 , not 10 so gets really confused.

    There is a thread where I posted the 'how to' of getting Entropia Universe to work with Vista on the forum, 'search is your friend' LOL
     
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  15. TalkerBot

    TalkerBot Forum Pest

    Groovy. I only hear that type of response less than five percent of the time.
    I have never heard about The clientloader checks for directx 9 not 10 so gets confused . Is there only one? I'm glad you find this amusing.
     
  16. hmmm.... so if I get a gpu with directx10 then I wont be able to play? Or I will have to do a few extra things to get it going?
     
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  17. dx10 is vista only as far as I know at the moment, so it's really a software consideration. I can't see you NOT buying a dx10 capable GPU at this time.
     
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