Calypso to MA

Discussion in 'Planet Calypso' started by Calin, Jun 17, 2011.

  1. NotAdmin

    NotAdmin Administrator

    If it's no secret, surely you'll be supplying some evidence to back up your statements, yeah?

    Not saying you're right or wrong, mind you.
     
  2. aridash

    aridash large throbbing member

    it was always gambling underneth, the only change has been the perception of the average payout. you can still play for 150 if you want to hunt foul and corn young, as i did 5 years ago.you can still play smart and lose little or profit.

    however, this is beside the point and off topic. for all that ranting, there is still an assumption MA is to blame. what if SEE simply didnt have the cash to pay them? considering that the revenue for 2010 was ~$5 million and for 2009 was ~$7.8 million, any suggestion that they could pay the $6 million to the schedule from 50% of the existing revenue, is wonderland. they must have had or assumed to have additional outside backing. my interpretaion is that this funding has been withdrawn, so SEE could no longer pay MA.

    SEE have had a smell of poor financials from the begining (i recall they cancelled one of their tours due to runnig out of money), and i fear the misgivings about them have been proven to be correct.
     
  3. Dab

    Dab

    Sounds like you are saying that NDS modeled itself after SEE?

    Funny you saying Rex is pussing out when you have to post anonymously to say it.

    I wonder if it's because you are banned here already or if you just don't have any spine?
     
  4. Those numbers are most likely based on the annual report for 2009, not any current numbers.
     
  5. GeorgeSkywalker

    GeorgeSkywalker Explorer

    Anonymous or banned or not it he does make a lot of sense.

    If you ignore his colourful language he's basically saying SEE took MA for a ride which does sound very plausible. Given we only have very limited information we really don't know what's what on this.
     
  6. Well, it has happened before with SEE:

    Source: http://memory-alpha.org/wiki/Star_Trek_The_Exhibition
    "...According to reports, following the closure of the exhibit, disputes arose between SEE Touring and Plainfield Asset Management (who held a security interest in the exhibit, providing investment capital for SEE), and between SEE Touring and the operators of the Queen Mary. An unpaid debt in the region of US$200,000 (for security, food and lodging) resulted in the Tour's equipment being retained at the Queen Mary, preventing the exhibit from moving on..."
     
  7. Lerp

    Lerp blind combantant

    There have been many times that it has looked like MA was up to no good. Many Many players have had money trouble with them and MA has had trouble and law suits from many many player too. So its has gone boath ways.

    I dont know the truth now or then. I dont care who is doing what anymore or who is bad and who is good because there is no way for me to know. They do love propaganda.

    I hope they did not trick ND or SEE. It would just be sad.
    Its not a game for them. Its real and would work without trickery.
    In one of ND viedos he showed it a difficult buisness to run.
    I can only guess it did not pay off.
    That sucks for everyone. Crap I feel bad for them boath and all of us players.
     
  8. NotAdmin

    NotAdmin Administrator

    I'm not sure I would instantly believe SEE could not fullfill their payment promises. That would also imply sheer negligence on MA side if they went along without doing their due dilligence and ensuring this money was actually there, rather than based on future promises.

    For 6m USD I would hope that MA did not just commit on a few promises, but verfied things. I'm going to await what comes back from SEE before jumping to any conclusions.
     
  9. This is really interesting since SEE made a press release on March 31:

    Source: http://www.seeglobalentertainment.com/news.html
    3/31/11 - SEE VIRTUAL WORLDS® SETS GUINNESS WORLD RECORD FOR ‘MOST EXPENSIVE VIRTUAL PROPERTY PURCHASE’
    SEE VIRTUAL WORLDS®TODAY ANNOUNCED THAT GUINNESS WORLD RECORDS HAS CONFIRMED THEIR RECORD FOR THE ‘MOST EXPENSIVE VIRTUAL PROPERTY PURCHASE’
     
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