Conquest forum game: Discussion thread

Conquest forum game: Discussion thread

haha. I noticed you gave me a couple of visits. I'll be sure to return the favor :p

narfi: sorry about jumping mid-round. I thought I asked about being moved before the next round started, but I guess wiz had other plans. foul still has the major advantage in this game though, with or without me :)

 

Conquest forum game: Discussion thread

Wizz don't forget the other two good suggestions by Akoz. (quoted above)

 

Conquest forum game: Discussion thread

Learn php, then help with the forum upgrade, then ask me again

 

Conquest forum game: Discussion thread

Direct your complaints to Akoz, please ;)

As for publishing info about game mechanics - i think it is part of the game to not be able to calculate everything precisely - other than that, work together and find out. :)

 

Conquest forum game: Discussion thread

I have to second that.. as long as the codewriter(+s?) are playing it's only fair that the game mechanics are shared with everyone. Nobody wants to waste a full round due to experimentation to find out how things work.

 

Conquest forum game: Discussion thread

Well, most of the players have an "unfair" advantage, because they tested the game mechanics in the first (beta) round - don't blame others for you being late... ;)

 

Conquest forum game: Discussion thread

yup you got that right.


Now it's really bugging me i'm going to stop reading this thread since i cannot tell what thread it is from index page (i.e. it's not been renamed....*hint* *hint* ....*nudge* *nudge*

*wink* *wink* )

 

I have NO clue what you're talking about ???


:D

 

Thanks for changing thread name.

I hate to say this but I would have to agree with narfi and akoz. Reminds me a bit of MA this when they do new releases without any content info. They are a bit better than before at least now we get some info...

The trick is in how you word the content/manual of this game. I think it is possible to give generic info to everyone whilst keeping some game mechanics hidden (if that's what concerns you).

 

typical woman when she says no means yes

Thanks for changing it (if it's you that changed it)

 

NP (it was me)

 

The conquest system consists of 8 scripts, together they have a size of ~ 100 KByte - there is no formatting, this is the plain text size (for comparison, 1 page of text written with a type writer has roughly 2000 character, this are ~2 KByte only)

I have changed parts of two of these scripts (maybe another line or two in a third script)

The information i have gained while working on these scripts are very limited, as i.e. the battle outcomes are calculated in different part, parts i have not worked on (and actually, i wish i had such a good memory)




Now, why am i telling you all this?

I am strongly against publishing exact details about how the conquest system works (i.e. quoting entire formulas), partially because i think this would kill the fun, the game is already very predictable, partially because i think that, once we started publishing details, the players will demand more details... and detailed knowledge will nothing but help people exploit possible weaknesses of the system (and don't tell me this won't happen, we've already seen what happend w/o detail knowledge) - and last but not least, because this will still favour people who are good at math, and those with little math skills will be even more discriminated.


Most of the little knowledge i do have has been shared in public (i.e. the tax depending on the troop size, and the max. tax of ~75%) - a while ago already.



Now, i don't want people to feel uncomfortable, or think that me taking part in the conquest game is an unfair advantage for one of the nations.
This doesn't apply to Lykke (unless she has learned coding secretly during the last months, but then again, i'd be pissed if she doesn't help me out then... but that's beside the point here) and only to a very small extent to Peter, who didn't even sign up for the current round (and didn't really play during the beta test, lack of time there, too).





So, if only a single one of you feels uncomfortable with me playing, please post it here - and i will immediately resign from the game.
I won't take it personal, but as i will be unable to test things (i.e. settings) myself, i will not give the conquest game the same high priority on my todo-list that it used to have until now.


This offer is ofc, limited time-wise (3 days/72 hrs from now), so you can't suddenly discover any unfair advantage just because the molisk tribe is about to win...

If noone speaks up during that 3-day period, expect me to ignore anything that hints that i'd have an unfair advantage thereafter.

 

This game wouldn't be fun for me if it wasn't about discovering things and act upon the edge that such information gives me.

 

a) I am calm, this is not an emo thread - if you think that me playing is unfair i will resign, simple as that - but i will not reveal game mechanics, as this would kill the fun.

b) Why you play EU, where almost everything is unknown, not only the "luck factor", but pretty much everything is blurry - sorry, can't accept that point.

c) About me being two faced - well, there is a painfully obvious difference between things that may (and should) be discovered, because they were meant to be part of the gameplay - and things that should not work like they do and are nothing else but an exploit.

Usually even the dumbest can tell them apart, i.e. by the MASSIVE advantage these "discoveries" give, and that bit of guilty conscience when you use it again - that you mix these up, deliberately, very aware of the difference - that is what i'd rate "two-faced".



My decison stands, i'll rather quit than publish details, if you're unhappy with my decision, well, anyone that wishes to be removed from the game can PM me and i will do so.

 

Wizzszz and I don't always see eye-to-eye, but I don't view him as an unscrupulous sh*t who would cheat. My vote is let him keep playing.

*Possible glitch - spy mission does not update "last succesful" time on the overview... I ran one last night, and another this morning (on the same player), but it still indicates last nights run as "last succesful".

 

I'm going to switch sides. I think wizz may be right about not sharing game mechanics, it'll just be a formula we are all following and hence loose any interest.

Also i don't think wizz should resign. He's shown he's quite capable of being "professional". It would be a sad loss to the game to see him go.

There are allready rules set out which we can follow. Do we really need the formulas? guess not, after playing for a few days we allready know roughly what we are doing...


A suggestion though for the next round it would be a good idea to have a initial truce period i.e. when the game is started the attack function cannot be used for a period e.g. 72 hours. This gives everyone a chance to be ready, what happened in recent games was players who first started immediately looted others who haven't even logged in yet.

In the beta version i think we had an unwritten rule to be sensible and some manners and didn't do that. However this time round events were different.