See this is what I was getting at. Obviously a hint was being dropped because rather than actually listen to what I was saying and acknowledge that this guy was trying to politically screw over a society, folks hopped on a bandwagon of "Magyar shut up." You said so yourself right there. This forum started playing a game of "ignore the elephant in the room" because they had no idea how to react to a newbie spreading obvious falsehoods after being removed from a society. Unfortunately it was my role to bring ANF foundation back down to reality with regard to human behavior and levels of decency, and ANF's role to carry on business as usual despite the obviously large animal sitting in on their meeting. Im not going to expound into any more detail because its pointless. You may consider this my last post on the subject. But if you want to respond feel free. I dont need the last word, as Narfi insinuated and you jumped onto support of. I view a forum as a discussion where ideas are traded back and forth. Its unfortunate that the ideas are only valid if they are party line. If the party doesnt agree the opposition must be an "egotist." Its a popularity contest. Sorry but Im not interested in the popularity contest. Im interested in the truth, and getting the job done. I am a person who evokes strong reactions, both positive and negative from people. I'm not a middle-of-the-road personality, and understanding that I left the popularity contests back in High School. I would also like to say I bowed out of the ANF foundation for the same reason: That my personality as a leader was simply an ill fit for the foundations greater goals. I'll leave it at that. Its up to you whether you'd like to add ridicule to the reasons why I stayed gone.