PCF: What am I missing?

OK, I'll admit this is coming from a quote from McCormick, and this question is towards him, however, it's also a broad enough question that I need others to answer as best they can so I can better understand.

You see the problem I have is that for over 3 years, the entire forum staff was basically:

• Me (John Capital)
• me
• and me

Jimmy B? Never there
Safara? Never there
Rayne Jade? Disappeared (I've even tried to find him IRL to make sure he was still alive)
Oh and 711? Have you ever heard of absentee management?

I'm not kidding. Soon after I became a mod, 711 became hard to get a hold of. Jimmy was never there and when he did show, did no modding. Safara was recruited to help, but quickly got too busy IRL and he too stopped modding. Even though those guys are technically mods, they don't mod. They aren't even around.

So for years, I was the one and only mod handling EF. I dealt with MA selling Calypso to FPC/SEE and the forum getting broken into two forums (And modding both) I dealt with Hanne also being absentee for months before FPC/SEE left and the forum "reverting back but not really". 711 was there temporarily but quickly left again. And I was again the one and only mod running both EF & PCF.

Each and every single reported post and mod issue for years? I handled it personally.

How alone was I? I didn't know 711 moved to Sweden until 2 years after it occurred.

I finally got 711 to try to hire more help. A few were asked and only Serica agreed to do it. And after a year of me training her, I finally left.

So forgive me, but all this complaining about how PCF was run? Well yeah, I take it personally. I modded things as best I could. And seeing descriptions like scheming and scamming being tossed about in describing the moderating? Well that can only be talking about me since I was the only mod. And I can tell you right now that scheming and scamming are things that I have never done in my life.

So if you would please, explain to me what was so terrible about my modding those years that you throw words like that around. Was there stuff going on while I was there that I didn't know about? Did i give you the impression that I favored one group over another? Was 711 selling serin gas and baby porn out of the trunk of his forum while I was there? (Yes, I know about his adult porn businesses, etc. but those aren't connected to PCF so don't bother.)

I look forward to learning what it was I did so wrong over those years that pissed you all off so much.

 

I'm sorry, but I don't recall reading any "PCF sucks, but JC was fine" posts.

Link(s) please?

 

Fair enough, M-Mesh. Not apologizing for the temp-ban. Just saying thanks for the fair and honest reply.

However, my point was simple. I get that some folks don't like 711. I agree with some issues about him, disagree with others. That's fine.

But complaining about 711 and then in the exact same breath accuse the mods (in this case, me for a few years) of scheming and scamming is crap. That would be like me being mad at Knuckles and pissing on Slither as if they're the same person.

Got issues with 711? Fine, but don't rant over me, Jimmy B, Safara, MS9, Serica or anyone else in the same breath. Keep your issues directed at the real targets.

Case in point, I was hoping for a reply from McCormick, since as I said his comments were the final straw for me, but fact is, I've seen a few folks lump the PCF mods in with their dislike of 711, and it's just plain not cool.


BTW M-Mesh, I've visited your blog from time to time, for info. You're a pretty good archivist, but I wish you occasionally put that effort in something more happy.

 

Thank you for replying, McCormick. I would have been disappointed in you if you hadn't. You always stuck up for what you believe in. We may disagree on some things, but maybe not as much as you think. However, skipping that, I'll reply to some things you mentioned.

You make it sound like I wanted to leave. Was never the case. I like that forum. It's not perfect, but its imperfections aren't bad enough to push me away.

Implying what? That folks recruited for moderating on any forum always jump at the chance? Hell no they don't. Folks know what a Pain In The Ass being a mod is. Like many said: hard work, taking shit from people (wonder who ;) )and oh yeah. Basically No pay. (Disclaimer: the mods were once given a total of 2k peds in prizes as a "thank you". Feel free to figure out my hourly income off that.)
It's quite common for folks asked to be a mod to refuse, regardless of the forum.

Hint: I don't agree with all the rules either. Not sure anyone does.

I'm also guessing you don't want a place that has zero rules. Recall EntropiaReality? Nice idea, but that place imploded on itself. (To be fair, it was really made originally just to spread "dark info" about certain others, but hey, whatever. It started growing beyond that, but the lack of rules caused it to die.)

So that means that regarding forum rules, we simply differ on which ones are good or not. I'd guess if you & I went through those PCF rules 1 atta time, we'd find we probably agree about which ones were good or not quite a bit.

IIRC, Lykke & NewShoes (Damn you dude, why'd you toss your old name away. It was way cooler) started this place off with much less rules. But after a few situations occurred, some new regulations were needed. I still like that it's less regulated than PCF, but as I said elsewhere, I like different places being, well, different.

TL;DR Sorry, that part came out WAY longer than I thought at first. Basically, I agree that we have different comfort levels regarding forum rules.

I don't mind the question at all. I'm more relaxed about porn than you are, obviously. True, as a website designer, I've been offered jobs to work on porn sites here in Vegas, and turned them down, but that's personal choice. I don't mind others working on them., It's just not a job I want.

And you never bothered to ask why.

That was a once in a lifetime post, for better or for worse.
Question: Do you think it's... No nevermind, that's a rude question. I'll skip it.


In the end McCormick, here's the bottom line:

I've always appreciated your contributions to this Community. And not just the vids, either. I'm sorry that the folks running EU and the owner of EF/PCF let you down so bad on a personal level.

However, please don't lump folks together when assigning your blame. That's just one step away from those evil "ism"s too many fall for. You know, racism, religionism, pcfism, etc. You got a beef with the owners of EU, fine. Blame them for what they do wrong. (I do) Same with 71NeoJixen or whatever you call him. But his issues are not my issues.

I worked hard for years to run EF/PCF basically on my own and keep it as decent as I could. Obviously I failed on a big level because so many of you left on my watch. You, MS9, Lykke, etc. And I'm bummed about that, I truly am. But I don't take it to personally, because I know (hope) you all left for reasons beyond my control. I'm also happy that so many of you stayed in the community and the game, even if we don't get to play together as often.

I'm here to play a game, meet people, discuss things and have a good time. (That reminds me, NewShoes, did you see those Atlas Shrugged movies?) While I hate certain things MA has done, and don't always agree with 711, they haven't done anything bad enough yet that has stopped me from having fun ingame and on the forums. (all the forums, even though my reduced RL time disallows me real time to be on too many of them) Maybe that's our biggest difference. You put so much heart into some expectation that the reality soured you bad. I'm really sorry that happened. I'm still able to have fun, but when I'm not, I'm gone. It's a game. Albeit a real good one that had even greater potential.

Damnit, I'm not trying to make it sound like i want you back at PCF. This Community is fractured (along planet lines, society lines, personality lines, etc.) and that's just the truth. I respect your choices, I do. I just refuse to accept blame for things I didn't do. Throw at me that which I truly did wrong personally, that's fine.

Happy hoffing.