Project Progress - MGN Viperstrike - The cost to hunt and progress in Entropia Universe.

Discussion in 'General Entropia Universe Discussion' started by Viperstrike, Feb 18, 2014.

  1. This game is very much gambling and would be very interesting if you could open some eye..so yes, this I guess would be an interesting project. So I say again, GL in bring MA down! you can do it!
     
  2. That is not the point of the project :)

    Anyway, live conciously. Everyone is welcome to draw their own conclusions and opinions on any part of this project. Including the reasons for undertaing it :)
     
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  3. If you set out to fail, you'll certainly succeed.....
    I hope you get some uber items during your project, although if you did it would just mean that you made it through gambling.
     
  4. Been a busy day, I have setup just over 20 registrations so far.

    Once I have all of them in place, inc, G+, facebook, twitter and the major and minor MMO sites, I will present a list and people can request for others to be added.

    Still undecided on the streaming server. I will trial the four I have so far and see what suits best.
     
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  5. Hi Harmony,
    This is not about failing or succeeding, it is not about getting any uber items.
    It is purely a data collection and analytics project based on one form of playstyle which covers 90%+ of the global gaming audience playstyle (Entertainment). The outcome can be determined after a few years. It does not bother me too much as to how it turns out in the end, only that it does come to some formal conclusion/resolution.

    I do hope it will turn out good for all involved - MindArk, players, MMO gamer site audience members, game reviewers/presenters and maybe even myself in some small form of self satisfaction and inner resolution.

    I won't hold my breath for now as to which direction this project will take;
    It is best to see this as an adventure with an unknown outcome that could be // good - between - bad //

    As I said in my OP, whichever way the cookie crumbles is the way it will crumble.
     
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  6. And yet i can predict that if you don't use too much armor/fap and the new limited guns i can predict that in a year:
    1. Your tt return will be between 92% and 98%
    2. You will have lost a lot of peds (more then most people are willing to deposit) due to your high turnover and tt'ing of loot.
     
  7. I look forward to the results and can understand the direction you're coming from. It's the same feeling I've had in the last couple of months about the value of entertainment rather than being a bean counter.

    I probably have a different perspective. I've been part of EU since 2001/2002 during the COT days. And in a sense EU has been good to me, I have made a profit. But it's been money made outside of the game mechanics so too speak whether its investing in estates, CLD's, trading etc... A couple of months ago after reading MA's latest financials, I decided to cash out all my CLD's and focus on just playing the game like a regular gamer.

    Which leads into my itch so too speak. Or what's been bugging me. Why is MA not more successful? To put some perspective on that itch, something like Candy Crush Saga (which is a mobile game similar to Bejeweled) made US$490million from players buying credits in just 3 months last year. It also has something like 94 million daily players.

    I appreciate EU is a niche product but it did pioneer this micro-transaction model of gaming, it was free to play when many MMO's still have a monthly charge. So where did it go wrong?

    It's funny, I worked on the print magazine The Entropian a few years ago and also helped MA with some newspaper interviews etc...Certainly I was far more enthusiastic then. Now that's been tempered perhaps by realism that change at MA is glacial at best.

    Still, since switching to "entertainment" in EU, it's been far more fun. I'm mainly mining at the moment and as I can only play a few hours a week, 100 bomb attempts can go a long way. I do TT most things, if I get a decent haul of minerals I'll chuck it on auction. Think it will get to a stage where much like buying credits in a mobile casual game, I should be able to just top up my PED card every now and then to buy bombs and replenish equipment.
     
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  8. All are welcome to predict as they feel the need to, I shall make no predictions, I will do then report outcomes in accordance with that listed below:

    There will be no skimping on any tools, weapons or armor of any kind.


    YES @ 1. All (L)imited items will be used where-ever possible. Dependant on market availability.
    YES @ 2. Sufficient, including lower and higher level 10/10 HIT&DMG (L) weapons will be used.
    YES @ 3. All maxed 100% (L) heal tools will be used.
    YES @ 4. (L) Armor will always be used that is appropriate protection (no skimping incurring unnecessary healing) for the mob being hunted as per availability from the auctioneer/supply shops at their going market rates.
    NO @ 5. No time will be wasted collecting any stackable loot to sell off, especially 101 - 105% stuff, even paint cans, extractors, hides, wools, etc etc that require many dozens of sittings to collect a reasonable stack to sell off will not have any time wasted on them (Anything that reflects boring/difficult/stressful/tracking/continuous-collecting actions is not within the scope of Entertainment nor this project).
    NO @ 6. No time will be spent unnecessarily trying to sell off loot at potential trade areas that usually require hours of effort harassing passing-by traffic - That is no fun at all and the opposite of entertainment. Leave work for real life.
    YES @ 7. If an item drops with 20+ PED attached to it, then yes, the auctioneer will be used to sell off that item as it will be considered the entry point of noteable value. Anything lower than this will be trashed to TT.

    In a nutshell as said in the original post, Entertainment, no boring/exhaustive or penny pinching activities that can consume many hours and PED to achieve. Sorry Harmony, we are doing this in accordance with the attitude of 90%+ of the gaming audience out there wanting ot be entertained, not conditioned - We are not going to try and teach gamers new tricks, that will be up to each individual to decide on which path they will take if they choose to pickup and play the game Entropia Universe.
     
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  9. Neuromancer

    Neuromancer Brainstormers Official Brain Glue

    Hi Viperstrike
    Good to see you back in game.

    However, I think after reading through all the tech and money posts in this thread I think you should go back to #1 - Have fun in game.
    Log because you want to. Talk with friends you've never met but would recognize instantly in an airport lounge. Check out what's new in game. Do something stupid just for the hell of it.

    And if you make a profit then more power to you. Life is too short to worry about % return on a mining run.
     
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  10. You planning on doing any missions as well? If you're going to spend time grinding through mobs are their missions you can do at the same time?
     
  11. Fact is that working towards a skilled avatar is a expensive job for most of the people.
    Fact is that playing this game overall costs a lot of money for most of the people, skilled or not skilled.

    Have seen more projects like this, and i have spend myself over 30.000 dollar before giving up on this platform and forming my current opinion.

    Entropia Universe is for people who not care about wasting staggering amounts of money for playing the game to the fullest.
    Guess that will be made very clear again with this project, and projects creators background.
     
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  12. Good morning Aziphirael,

    Yes. Missions will be the primary focus of the activity undertaken for this project.

    I intend to keep to a steady pace, selecting somewhere between 2 to 3 mobs to rotate on to keep things a little interesting.

    I don't intend to participate in any of the events like meyhems, this that or the other as they will disrupt a steady routine and really at this point in time, you really have very little chance to win anything on such a small budget of $100 usd a week.

    I expect the general missions at times will become somewhat boring for some people to do, but this will also demonstrate what kind of goals MindArk set for the player, the rewards attached and what is expected of them to obtain those rewards. Luckly for me, long monotonous tasks are easy to get into and stay with, since they relax me and are like meditation after a while once the routine is formed.

    At present I am doing the 25k/30k ambu points and 2500/10k atrox points missions which I cruise on daily.
     
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  13. Hi Neuromancer,
    Thanks, good to see you too.

    Having fun gaming is not an issue since I play a number of games, like Star Citizen, Elders Scrolls, X Rebirth and Everquest Next that provide everything that may be lacking in Entropia Universe. So my diet is full of good and rich experiences entertainment wise.

    The point with Entropia & Mindark is I have found purpose in what I need resolved within myself after playing the game for so long, spending so much money, experiencing the gaming company modus operandi & attitudes and community alike;

    Hence why I am willing to spend so much time, money and effort this time around on getting tthese things about Entropia and MindArk within me resolved once and for all.

    This time I have decided it will be done. I am ordering the 10/10M Sync link most likely today, lead time is around eight weeks. I know I will find this project in the long run satisfying to accomplish.
     
  14. Hi,

    I have ordered the new link this morning, just over $1200 for install $1099+GST. Lead time, 40 - 60 business days, so 8 to 12 weeks. It is a bit long, but due to the almost 2kms of cable involved, they need to qualify 4 x quality pair (8-wires) to run the service across. We have the NBN being installed in the area as well, but since I am part of the commercial rated zoning (Even though I am R1 residental) I will be needing to wait another 2 years for the 100M/40M Sync fibre service.

    So in the meantime, this will be the soluton needed 10M/10M Sync.

    Also I visited the doctor and got another heart test done, all is looking ok for the current condition it is in. Torn inner chamber, 16mm. So I was happy with that, I guess. Hoping it heals over the next 2 - 3 years to whatever degree it can as I have refused operations and medicine for it.

    Blood pressure came right down, 141/78, still a touch high but better than what it was a few weeks ago 202/85. I also lost 9 kgs in 7 weeks and if this continues to my optimum weight for my height 187cm, 90kgs. Then all should look good for the future :)
     
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  15. So easy to do stuff on forums and websites with www.overwolf.com browser, I like the fact that is chrome based and has all needed plugins like flash-player etc already installed :)

    I can say coming to you live from within Entropia lol - Well ok its an overlay :)

    Alright I deposit $ 250 USD into Entropia today and spent almost 1,000 PED on new armor set (L) URSA from the guys at SFE - Southern Fortress Engineering, great value, lasts a very long time hunting.

    I think I might take it easy this weekend and play a bit more than usual :)
    I will continue to do registrations over the weekend, I hope to have it all complete by Monday night.

    Will list the list here on EP once completed :) No use rushing, I have at least 8 weeks of wait time until this project starts :)
     
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  16. Hi,

    Since I am a premium member of www.di.fm I will be selecting out a few channels there for background music when streaming starts. in a couple of months.

    Vocal Trance channel - http://www.di.fm/vocaltrance
    UMF - Ultra Music Festival - http://www.di.fm/umfradio

    And a few others, depending on mood, situation and energy levels at the time :)

    Naturally being Dutch yet Australian born I am an avid trance/electronica music listener.

    Love trance music actually, always have, though don't worry, I still use my HTM iso-tones for keeping things in perspective.

    (High-Tech Meditation) - www.iso-tones.com - A good HTM routine daily has proven to be great for keeping resting heart beat, stress and blood pressure down to normal levels.
     
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  17. Something out of the ordinary has occured. Not a bad thing, it has to do with this project.
    I can't talk about it, though just want to say goodbye to all for now. See you in the future.

    Taking down the MMO Gaming Network and Taree Computers Online Store to ... :thumbup:
    I am here in spirit with my three wise monkeys
     
  18. Account closure requested.

     
  19. After a long phone chat, almost midnight where she is now, I can to reveal a little information about the task. So I will keep it brief:

    Yes, I am working for an offshore (Not sure if I can mention what)
    Yes, it involves research.
    Yes, it involves Entropia Universe.
    No, I will no longer have Viperstrike as a avatar. Immediate closure requested.
    No, players I already know will not know, nor will Mindark know who my new avatar is.
    Yes. IP addresses have already been changed and are no longer static.
    Yes, it is paid for work - An offer I could not refuse.
    Yes, I game without limits now within the context of an outline very similar to this project.
    Yes, all information will be recorded and uploaded to them.
    No, it will not be streamed at this point as live content.
    Not sure. I think it will be made available once the project draws to a conclusion.
    No. I can not directly interact with the community on the forums.
    Limited. Interaction with the community ingame. eg. socs, teams, etc.
    Not sure. I think it is just a data collection and analytics project.
    No Idea. I can not mention what the reason is for this as I do not know myself.

    Peter, please close my forum account.
    Thanks all, exciting times ahead.
    Bye.
     
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  20. EwoK

    EwoK Southern Fortress Engineering

    best of luck mate.
     
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