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Oct 4, 2020 #41
McCormick
Still updating accordingly.
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Nov 21, 2020 #42
Fan_boy99 Ignore Spawn and San they are Sheeples
The person in the photo that i have attached is mentioned in the big picture. I feel that what he said the other week is relevant and big picture could perhaps be updated accordingly.

Question: - Heavy grinders/players - How do you do it? | PlanetCalypsoForum

''I am a teacher in real life. started as K-12, after that TEFL in high school. Currently I Teach a bit of English, Webdesign, Videoediting and Gamedesign for students aged 15-16. Entropia is a part of the curriculum, because of its unique revenue model. So you could say Entropia is a part of my job.''

reply ''I like this! Get'em sucked in while they are young!''.

Direct quotes. Screenshot attached.

Edited: it is purely info about some1 that is already in the big picture. In my humble opinion i think that any teacher that is teaching students Entropia should be mentioned (well updated in this case) in the big picture.

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Nov 21, 2020 #43

McCormick

Spawn posted that embrassing statement years ago already.
Quite the lifegoal, that he still feels its a good idea to write that once more in public...

"Entropia is part of my job" x'D

Thank god German schools would question any teacher promoting pay2play scams...to teach your pupils a lesson. ;D
(or grab them as disciples)

"Remember, I brought my kids through college, thx to Entropia !" Oooff....

But Im sure he teaches them to play economic and how to take 1000 Euros out of Entropia every month. Just like he does... ;P
Nov 21, 2020 #44

Fan_boy99 Ignore Spawn and San they are Sheeples

McCormick said: ↑

Spawn posted that embrassing statement years ago already.
Quite the lifegoal, that he still feels its a good idea to write that once more in public...

"Entropia is part of my job" x'D

Thank god German schools would question any teacher promoting pay2play scams...to teach your pupils a lesson. ;D
(or grab them as disciples)

"Remember, I brought my kids through college, thx to Entropia !" Oooff....

But Im sure he teaches them to play economic and how to take 1000 Euros out of Entropia every month. Just like he does... ;P
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No you miss the point. This time last week he said on the other forum that he is an actual teacher (teaching other peoples kids)....

K-12 means Keystage 1-2 . He is UK based. I would investigate more. He is as per his words ''Entropia is a part of the curriculum''.

I think that is....All that i suggested is put it into the next update of the big picture. If he really is a UK teacher and teaching kids ''get them in young''. WTF?

A teacher in UK (an accredited teacher) teaching '''Entropia is a part of the curriculum''

No and it wont ever fu*king be. Why watch the People make games clip. 1m+ views now. 50+ likes. 400 (still haha) dislikes. Thats a tiny thing. We can not have teachers (that is IF he really IS a teacher in schools) 'Entropia is a part of the curriculum'. No no NO. I should not even have to say 'why'. #

Once again. Given info publicly and freely (i took screenshot in case the comment on other forum ''disappeared'' as things on that forum are apt to do). Add it next to his name (in game name i mean of course :) )
Nov 21, 2020 #45
McCormick
Meanwhile in 2011 :
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Nov 21, 2020 #46

NotAdmin Administrator

Fan_boy99 said: ↑

K-12 means Keystage 1-2 . He is UK based. I would investigate more. He is as per his words ''Entropia is a part of the curriculum''.
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Spawn is Dutch. His profile also shows "The Netherlands".
Nov 21, 2020 #47

Fan_boy99 Ignore Spawn and San they are Sheeples

At the end of the day some1 who is in the Big picture is apparently a Teacher who thinks quote ''Entropia is a part of the curriculum''. I think that is good enough from his own mouth to be added to the big picture. Idea of the big picture is for public to see all information for life. Right?
Nov 23, 2020 #48

Wistrel Kick Ass Elf

McCormick said: ↑

Meanwhile in 2011 :

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I assume 9 years of silence?
Nov 23, 2020 #49

mastermesh

Wistrel said: ↑

I assume 9 years of silence?
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mostly, yes... especially interesting considering the topic of that thread.
Are planet partners allowed to participate? Who can/cannot participate and at what level? (entropiaforum.com)

Are planet partners allowed to participate? Who can/cannot participate and at what level?
This post is a response to the forum threads at http://www.planetcalypsoforum.com/fo...ittering-idiot! and at http://www.neverdie.com/neverdie-stu...rohibited.html

I'll post my question after the quotes that I'm wondering about.

I guess since ROCKtropia & Next Island are close to launching and because today was a Landmark day as NEVERDIE Studios moved to our New Studio on Hollywood Blvd it is finally time for me to become a twittering idiot....

For those of u interested in keeping Track of My Raving...

You can follow me at "Nevereverdie"

It has been brought to my attention that the Planet Partner Agreement strictly Prohibits Planet Owners or planet Partner Employees from Playing Entropia universe with private Avatars...

IF Mindark Choose to make public the specifics of this agreement, then that is up to them.

In general though What that means as far as I understand it regarding ROCKtropia and NEVERDIE Studios is that all of our Private Avatars must cease to engage in all End User Game Play activities, excluding perhaps logging in to manage pre-exisiting assets, until such time that employment is terminated.

All Official (Non Private) NDS or ROCktropia Avatars will be subject to Severe restrictions. (Management, Demo, Guide, Test, Roleplay Avatars, etc)

Further Clarification will be provided here if appropriate or necessary.

1) It is Possible to Create an Official Avatar for NEVERDIE or other NDS Employees to be used to enter the World and Chat with the community

Constructed OreAmp OA-101 (L) with a value of 1913 PED at Rocktropia! http://bit.ly/aCgUQl
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Constructed OreAmp OA-101 (L) with a value of 74 PED at Rocktropia! http://bit.ly/aCgUQl
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Constructed OreAmp OA-101 (L) with a value of 112 PED at Rocktropia! http://bit.ly/aCgUQl
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Constructed OreAmp OA-101 (L) with a value of 77 PED at Rocktropia! http://bit.ly/aCgUQl
1 Jan » nevereverdie nevereverdie
Constructed OreAmp OA-101 (L) with a value of 71 PED at Rocktropia! http://bit.ly/aCgUQl
1 Jan » nevereverdie nevereverdie
Constructed OreAmp OA-101 (L) with a value of 137 PED at Rocktropia! http://bit.ly/aCgUQl
1 Jan » nevereverdie nevereverdie
Constructed OreAmp OA-101 (L) with a value of 83 PED at Rocktropia! http://bit.ly/aCgUQl
1 Jan » nevereverdie nevereverdie
Constructed OreAmp OA-101 (L) with a value of 81 PED at Rocktropia! http://bit.ly/aCgUQl
1 Jan » nevereverdie nevereverdie
Constructed OreAmp OA-101 (L) with a value of 67 PED at Rocktropia! http://bit.ly/aCgUQl
1 Jan » nevereverdie nevereverdie
Constructed OreAmp OA-101 (L) with a value of 78 PED at Rocktropia! http://bit.ly/aCgUQl
1 Jan » nevereverdie nevereverdie
Constructed OreAmp OA-101 (L) with a value of 138 PED at Rocktropia! http://bit.ly/aCgUQl
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Constructed OreAmp OA-101 (L) with a value of 72 PED at Rocktropia! http://bit.ly/aCgUQl
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Constructed OreAmp OA-101 (L) with a value of 2597 PED at Rocktropia! http://bit.ly/aCgUQlDoes the Planet Partner Agreement really contain the prohibitions listed above?

Are planet partners, their shareholders, company owners (and/or investors), employees of planet partners, or those that are contracted with planet partners in some way, such as through the purchase of LAs before planets exist, allowed to 'participate' in Entropia Universe with personal avatars, and if so at what level of participation are each of those allowed to participate? Are the planet partners and employees of planet partners required to turn in to Mindark the name of their avatar(s) at the time they begin working for planet partners? Are they allowed to use the mine, craft, hunt, loot, use the auction, teleport in a way that provides profits to hanger owners, participate in any other way?

If they are allowed to participate, are there rules on what they can and cannot do and can that be made public? Also, if there is a list of 'known' planet partner avatars is it possible that you can provide them to the community so that when we see planet partner employees in game we know we are not dealing with a normal participant? If you cannot do that can you at least make all planet partner avatars show up with different color text, icons over their heads like the npcs around Port Atlantis, or something so that they are easily identifiable in game?

Does the rule about employees of planet partners apply to all employees, or just certain employees, i.e. only full time employees, or part time employees/interns too? Is there any rules on 'how long' the non-participation must be done? Can a person that had an avatar that worked for a planet partner start participating again on the day they quit or are fired, or must they wait a certain number of days/months/years before they can fully participate again?

Also, are Mindark shareholders and/or employees allowed to participate? Regarding some posts over at http://www.planetcalypsoforum.com/fo...nterview/page2

It appears that there is some questions being raised. It appears that some 'owners' of Mindark shares may be actually participating with an avatar. This is an entirely seperate issue but is related to the question of if planet partners are allowed to participate...

So:
Officially, are planet partners allowed to participate as participants?

Officially, are planet partner employees allowed to participate as participants?

Officially, are Mindark Shareholders allowed to participate as participants?

Officially, are Mindark employees allowed to participate as participants?

Officially, are Planet Partners allowed to own shares of Mindark itself?

Officially, are those that are third party contractors in contracts with Planet Partners or Mindark (in LA ownership deals set out outside of the game itself, etc.) allowed to participate?

Are Planet Partners' employees required to provide information about any of their own personal avatars to Mindark that might be useful information in helping Mindark keep planet partners' employees from participating, if they indeed are not supposed to participate?

Mods feel free to delete the part in the above about particular avatars if you wish. I'm just not sure how to word the questions right without asking about particular 'known' examples of what I'm asking about. If someone else can ask in a better way in a reply here, feel free to shoot away.

If the prohibition listed on Rocktropia forums is true, what exactly does "manage pre-exisiting assets" mean? Wouldn't items looted through hunting, mining or crafting count as new assets instead of pre-existing assets?
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FYI only answer that ever came was actually from Alt Avatar user for a couple of planet partners (who actually graduated at least one disciple using PP funds/time on the clock to do so I guess?)/MS9/DME/Monria Fleet Manager/Probably a few more avatars on Toulan now/...
They walk amongst us... | EntropiaPlanets.com - Entropia Universe forum, news, wiki, media, tools

At one point she was a true journalist, or as close to one as could be possible in this virtual universe... then she flipped to the other side, just like Ludvig did and all of a sudden the communication openly stopped except for in game chats and globals using PP money, potentially taking that loot away from others, arguably...
Nov 23, 2020 #50

mastermesh

p.s.
Did you add in Terra Nova: Mindark, I’m sorry… (blogs.com)
Best piece of Mindark history right there... right next to the old articles on the Microsoft Piracy Raid... still get a bit of a giggle out of the old comments on there and a few other places...

Oh, here ya go...
Entropia Universe Examined | Blogtropia: Resellers, Scammers, and Leeches (archive.org)
Love Finkle's Quote over there... (even if it is only half true)

Finkle said...

Don't you people realize by now that it is Mindark employees doing the reselling/scamming in this game? It is Mindark alone that profits from this game. The "uber" players in the game are the ones that work for Mindark. I have noticed from the beginning how they operate. The day you download this program and get put at Port Atlantis you are immediately approached by employees of Mindark posing as old players. They shuffle you over to the sweat camp and show you how to sweat. You do that until you can't stand it anymore. Then they buy your sweat or you sell it to some other person for next to nothing, buy yourself a weapon and ammo from the trade terminal, go out and start hunting the animals, only to discover your ammo runs out and weapon breaks without you having made even 1/10 of what you need to repair them and buy more ammo. Then back to sweating, usually people who go through this cycle a couple of time will end up depositing money. The minute you do, scammers flock over and try to steal your money in some way or another. Make no mistake, there are mostly employees of mindark, they know EXACTLY when you deposit, and don't show their faces until you do. I have watched the tactics they use and see the light. The avatars you meet and put on your friend list are more times than not the SAME employee. Just watch how on your friends list two or three people seem to log out at exactly the same time. Then a minute later when their computer reboots they log back in at the same time, with a slight delay in between. Look at how the same avatars can't hold up individual conversations with you at the same time, they have a hard time trying to keep up with both conversations. I have actually seen one avatar answer a question that I asked ANOTHER avatar!! The staff of mindark sit around and create accounts all day, scam newbies, manipulate the market, get Hall of Fames to entice you to keep playing, and you are a HUGE TOOL if you play their rigged game. You are better off driving down the street tossing dollars out the window. You stand a much better chance of NOT losing your money than if you play this game. STAY AWAY FROM THIS GAME, DON'T BE A MINDARK TOOL!!!
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Oh, a couple of other fun little investment funds you may want to mention too...
etc.... (think you already mentioned eif, but don't think I saw RR Devil thing in there?... Maybe I didn't look close enough)

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BEWARE OF FUND SCAMS!!! :

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'Renting'

Clarification about Entropia Banking Operations

Since we released news about the virtual banking licenses, several questions regarding loan services and banking affairs within Entropia Universe have been raised. The main concern has been the lending of items for interest. We feel that we need to clarify our policy about this.

Recently MindArk PE AB issued official virtual banking licenses. These licenses comprise a secured bank system for processing loans and securities in the form of items. All transactions made via this official bank system, such as loans, defaults, securities, interest etc., are safe and as such guaranteed by MindArk.

By contrast, loan services offered outside this official bank system cannot be guaranteed by MindArk. If an item is exchanged between avatars, this transaction will be logged as a regular TRADE. And as all trades are final, MindArk will not investigate claims if a loan giving avatar refuses to return items or money.Many people do not fully understand the true value of their virtual items until they are lost. They will then contact MindArk PE AB for assistance and will realize that we cannot help them; this can cause a lot of unnecessary grief and frustration.

We do not wish to discourage entrepreneurship within Entropia Universe, but based on experiences from community feedback and support case history, unfortunately not all entrepreneurs offering loaning services are trustworthy members of the Entropia Universe and therefore we need to be strict in our policies in order to protect the community from scams and cheating.

Therefore, any loan services offered outside the approved bank system will be considered by MindArk as scam attempts and the avatar offering such services risk a permanent lockdown of his/her account.
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https://www.planetcalypsoforum.com/...H-amp-R-Circle&p=681145&viewfull=1#post681145

'Fund Scams' As noted above, according to Mindark:

...If an item is exchanged between avatars, this transaction will be logged as a regular TRADE. And as all trades are final, MindArk will not investigate claims if a loan giving avatar refuses to return items or money.

...any loan services offered outside the approved bank system will be considered by MindArk as scam attempts and the avatar offering such services risk a permanent lockdown of his/her account.
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so ALL 'funds' where one avatar holds stuff that other avatars are claiming they have ownership of should be considered a potential scam in process... Below are links to Funds that have been mentioned in forums, community websites, etc. (some did turn out to be major scams already, some haven't yet... Be cautious since Mindark considers these sort of setups as 'potential scams' and we, as a community should too unless Mindark's stance on this matter and ability to allow us to have multiple folks own one thing in game (outside of the deed system for Akradia Underground Deeds, Calypso Land Deeds, etc.) ever changes someday... (Honestly, I'm not sure why Mods don't delete every 'fund' thread since Mindark won't stand behind funds as they are scam-bait, unless maybe the Mods themselves are behind one or a few of them?)

*fund*

LA Collaboration Fund

Chiee's EU-FUND - Investment Opportunity

My Money Mint add PEDS to your account value every month!!!

Looking for co-investors in the Cyrene stable

JoshEdward’s Smart Trade Terminal Solution (STTS)

R&R Fund

Thread Related to R&R Fund

NDX

Pirate's Investment Fund

Hardwrath's NBK Fund Payback Post

https://www.planetcalypsoforum.com/...nvert-L-to-PED&p=867769&viewfull=1#post867769

Entropia Investment Fund

Related Thread(s):Did EIFund scammed people?

http://www.entropiaplanets.com/thre...ince-2013-we-salute-kunrad-solo-reez-d.21790/

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RR fund above is probably the worst and oldest known in the history of Entropia, but there's been other similar type scams all along, some of which just haven't been documented as well.

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Nov 24, 2020 #51

NotAdmin Administrator

Right before the bank licenses hit, I ran a non-official pawn shop. Of course there was no real mechanism in place to guarantee anything, and I really had little to lose, other than my reputation. I left the items publically visible in my appartment, and actually had a nice few recurring deals going on.
Jan 10, 2021 #52

McCormick

Additional Infos about "RIGA TEAM" and "White Tigers" appreciated.
Jan 27, 2021 #53
mastermesh
Apparently NextIsland Official Manager is Claire Martin?
Lower prices please. - Next Island Forum
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Jan 30, 2021 #54

Wistrel Kick Ass Elf

mastermesh said: ↑

Apparently NextIsland Official Manager is Claire Martin?
Lower prices please. - Next Island Forum
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Finally a name rather than all this mysteriousness that they've been chucking out on Facestalk
Jan 30, 2021 #55
McCormick
Wistrel said: ↑

Finally a name rather than all this mysteriousness that they've been chucking out on Facestalk
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Eh, all NI names are in the pic. :)
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Feb 25, 2021 #56

Wistrel Kick Ass Elf

McCormick said: ↑

Eh, all NI names are in the pic. :)
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oooohhhh....

OK I finally had the muse to take a look at that thing some... wow! Quite the rat's nest of interconnectedness... it reminds me of something out of X-Files or Heroes. You know where someone has all this stuff pinned to a wall and bits of string going between the news articles etc to connect things.

Anyhow, it's quite the thing to try and follow... all those connections. So while I'd heard rumours that NI was now run by BIG industries, it seemed to be some sort of big secret and no one running it seemed to want to just come out and say "sure I'm running this now, I'm a long time player, PS I also worked on deepcoin and the affiliation program" or something.

Why all the secrecy? And how do we know it's actually those guys running it? Is there evidence or a confidence reveal or is this just speculation?

Sorry for the questions
Wistrel
Feb 25, 2021 #57

Wistrel Kick Ass Elf

PS does anyone remember the next Island mobile app that was launched a bit before the Planet was IIRC? It introduced the story as a sort of visual novel IIRC... sorry it's a bit vague in my memory now... it might have been an iThing. I have dim recollection of installing it on my dad's ipod (the one that was like an iphone 1 but without being a phone)

Aha! Entropia planets wiki to the rescue! Great archiving there guys!!

Next Island Origins - EntropiaPlanets Wiki - Entropia Universe Guides Wiki Info

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Feb 25, 2021 #58

theProphet

i adore the work and detail you've put into this, as if one big picture says more than a trillion words...

wonder if any of the people in the big picture have noticed or got back to you on that? but sure, we EU players don't look behind the dirty curtains, they get blown away by (repeating) history, and very shiny green grass grows over it.
Feb 25, 2021 #59

McCormick

Sadly @Tass (last seen 8/2020) wasnt able to update my latest version of this. (as hes offline)
Im into other things and reallife again, instead of Entropia...but should he return, you'll be able to SEE even more.

@theProphet
Some smiled, some laughed at me...and some provided the informations needed. So, thank them !

@Wistrel
Let me google...nahhh...but honestly, in todays world you need to discover some things on your own. :)
The Next Island People are fairly simple to be discovered via google...and if you know their reallife names...its childsplay...
Feb 25, 2021 #60

McCormick

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