Planet Toulan: There's much that can be developed by using & building on these existing systems

First of all the nerve of that support guy with his “because you got bored of everything after playing 20 years”!

He lost his argument right there!

You got to him with the truth, a painful truth that he didn’t want to hear nor wanted others to hear.

The only possible way that MindArk can respond to your fair and accurate criticisms are for them to hold their hands up, accept that they have continued to break their promises (at best, or at worst just lied for all we know) and then actually do something to address their failings.

Again I will say thank you very much for exposing MindArk’s ‘failings’ Mc. Your posts have helped me wise up to how things really are and I’ve shown a friend who plays and he’s also cashed in a lot of peds for ‘proper’ money.

It’s a shame that you’re seen as a sort of ‘lone wolf’ on this. Most players get so disillusioned or broke they just quit.

In a way Mc you’re doing MindArk an unpaid service by highlighting what they can and ought to do better.

 

i remember a very close friend, born on toulan nearly years ago, and hiding there for over a year, told me why toulan was her first choice. and why she left. before she totally left. and i know for sure she loved to play, didn't care to invest for her playtoys, but looked behind the curtain and was so disgusted, she just couldn't stand it any longer...

i wonder who's to blame in this very personal specific case. i feel the inner need to write an ode about her, in the time i play EU less than before. it kinda lost its once very very big importance for me ... and a handful of, how many, guessed? in that lifespan?

E~

 

and i think one of the main problems in history is the discrepance between how mindark maybe COULD do things, and how they actually CAN. just by personal observation ... i mean, i've learned in primary school already, that you SHOULD NOT FUCKING REPEAT ANY MISTAKE. your choice is big enough for fucks sake, limitless ways to fuck everything up, and you repeat one mistake several times? you're probably stupid then. but i'm not judging, i feel sorry and even painful myself, and it fucking freaks me out. stupid me, utopist and perfectionist of the worst kind. nearly DoA. oh, but i actually can code.

 

oh, and i wanted to add that they can stick the 17th graphics update of existing shit up their ass where noone has ever been before.

please, please someone finally tell them after decades of gaming history. it's about how it sounds and about the feeling, and how it adds fuel to your own inner imagination. i know better MUDs than this project, seriously. but tbh not over that timespan tho!

 

I once had really high hopes regarding Planet Toulan when it was announced as first Arabien Planet Partner.

Me and my sister Kristin had a friend ingame from Cairo, Egypt. He and Kristin talked often about our different cultures and behaviors. When the Arab Spring happened in 2011 he was involved because he lived in Cairo. Kristin asked him what would happen now. "We will build a democracy within next two years," he replied. Kristin had deep doubts obout this. She told him that it took 100 years in Germany to build a firm democracy. From 1849 (Paulskirche Frankfurt) to 1949 (Constitution Of Federal Republic Of Germany). A long, bitter and bloody process until our folks understood the meaning of demcracy and brought it to life with the help of the winners of WW2. His reaction was something like "WOW!". One day Kristin deleted him from her FL because his behavior became more and more sexual. Admitted, in a polite and flowery way. I talked to him later and he told me that he couldn't understand Kristin's step. I could. Our cultures, our histories and our socialisations are very different.

So my hope was to learn more about arab culture, arab rules and behavior from an arabien world in EU. Flying to Toulan the very first time I expected to have to change my clothes at arrival. Okay, not the whole arabien world is islamic. I could run around at Toulan in Micro Skirts or even in undies. My thoughts were: Hey, clothing restrictions are possible. As for instance at "The Thing" and at "Ancient Greece". Why not at Toulan? My wish was to be able to buy typical clothes, like a burka or whatever would be common or offered. But my main interest was to meet people from the arabien world and culture. Just to talk about ... ehrm ... life, the universe and evreything ...

But Toulan wasn't by far an arabien planet. It wasn't even a cheap copy of Calypso like Arkadia. It was simply bad. No folks from arab countries there. Toulan is just a bad joke.

 

Mohammed struck a nerve, which is good IMO, otherwise you wouldn't have made this thread. Perhaps you need to SEE inside yourself for a change. The reason I gave Mohammed a +rep (which I would have if the system would have allowed it, is that I think he is right. To call me a fanboy is hilarious. It shows how deeply disconnected with reality you really are. I have made my fair share of criticism at Mindark, planet partners and the like. I even copied your thread from here, in the forum that people actually read. The difference is that we (the dreamers) still want to see this game go forward, and you don't.
To be honest, you should let the dreamers dream their dream, because it is theirs to dream. Maybe they dreamt about melee amps (and they got em), maybe they dream about mindforce amps (and they got em), maybe they dreamt about armor with special buffs (and they got em), maybe they dreamt about.... rideable mobs. They didnt get em yet, but maybe one day they will.
I have been playing since 2004 and I have seen many improvements over time.
A lot has not been implemented, and maybe they never will. Your content of oblivion starts off with the harvester.. and tadaa, it's here 15 years later, we have gardening, we have nutrio bars. So let us dream.

"But you have been playing for 20 years and got bored of everything."
Although... Mohammed took it back and now calls you: "you're the No.1 Entropia fanboy, playing for so many years, closely engaged with the game since PE to modern EU, and reaching the point of being able to fully experience the game without depositing.

Raising your voice and criticizing, is actually caring to see positive outcome on the immersive Sci-Fi MMORPG we all love."

So I guess, we will have to call you the number one fanboi!

Fanboi number two,

Spawn

 

i still wonder if Mohamad is 711? https://entropiarelated.wordpress.com/2014/02/22/speculation-about-who-runs-toulans-forums/

 

Spawn fair enough if you’re still hopeful for EU to work out OK.

For me though EU died with vu10 I think it was..the Cryengine update where the maps changed and everything familiar and popular that made PE awesome and atmospheric was lost forever.

Then at some stage the big loots disappeared, ie the regular uberloots you could more or less count on if you camped eg. Atrox, Longu or most mid-level mobs for long enough.

So less atmospheric, less fun and more expensive.

No dreams here unless EU was bought out by a decent gaming company.

 

Is it possible to learn more details about this "look behind the curtain" without violating your friend's privacy?

 

I agree that PE was a better game. But Craftmeister never played PE, yet he is excited about this new game. Does he really need to listen to the boulevard of broken dreams who plays the same record over and over. We get it, game is broken and it could be soo much better than it is, yet new players step on my societies doorstep ever so often and they are excited. Maybe they will have the same grunts 14 years from now. But for now, they are having a blast.
I have been here since 2004. I Have been in that place where it felt when cryengine came, that the world as we knew it, was gone forever. I still miss the molisks close to east scylla. the mad tantillion spawn at atlas.. Sometimes I go out there to check if they secretly didn't put the spawn back. Jason's mask, the weird tower in the desert, the entrance of the mine at twin peaks. the broken robots that were remnants of the great robot war.
But I got over it, and I now enjoy crytopia, and I am still a critic especially when promises are not met, like the statues at caly and the landplots at ark. It is unacceptable. But with all the broken promises and all the missing content, this is still one hell of a game. And I refuse to look at it through McCormick's pessimist eyes. I choose to enjoy the game. And I will keep nagging McCormick when he tries to squat a dreamer's dream. So +rep to 711 (if he actually is Mohammed)

 

And I will keep thanking him for kicking MindArk’s butt so I guess we’ll cancel each other out. ;)

The ones who are not ‘having a blast’ who could offer a counter-argument have probably already stopped playing hence can’t be brought to the witness stand to testify in favour of McCormick.

My irl friend who still plays occasionally vowed years ago that he would never again deposit any cash into EU.

This was due to the higher costs of playing, vu 10, mistrust of MindArk and he had never read any of McCormick’s posts.

So once he’s run out of stuff to sell and can’t buy ammo that’s him done also, another 2004 player will bite the dust.

 

Good post Peter. Yes , a lot of content is half baked and not very finished. And yes a lot of suggestions and wishes were made.

But on the other hand, a lot of suggestions and frustrations were handled by Mindark.

Back in 2009 I made this list of bugs and frustrations after Marco asked us to tell them to him:

http://www.planetcalypsoforum.com/f...p-Marco-deal-with-his-quot-frustrations-quot-

this was the entire list:

A lot of those wishes and frustrations were handled, at least most of the top 20 of the list are now simply ingame.
You can look at what Mindark has not done, you could also look at what has been accomplished. It's just a matter of perspective and a matter of how to bring the game forward. I put fix/still here/ half fix/ dunno after the first 50

Frustration Count

• Auto arrange auction list/find/search/alerts 36 FIX
• Bigger Friendslist 30 FIX
• Item not currently available,busy 29 STILL HERE
• Autoclick, batch processing, autoshoot on clicked mouse, autoextracting 19 FIX
• Cost of playing, low return in entertainment 19 FIX
• Lag, extra misses, decay, know if there is lag, miss!! 19 FIX
• No offline message/mail system 18 FIX
• Improvements on map, resizable/zoom, higher res 15 HALF FIX
• When chatting in all/soc chat, trade/chat request causes main to lose focus and lots of windows opening|( on keystrokes) 14 HALF FIX
• Events: more prices, list of placement, reminders,expansion, non-hunting events 14 HALF FIX
• Remove unl plates from L armour, unequip all armour 13 FIX
• Better mob Ai (mobs running off), berycleds hunt in packs, armax go in protective circles 13 STILL HERE
• Shops inventories on auction screen, ingame shop directory, shop search 9 STILL HERE
• Switch fap/pistol loose ammo or fap 9 FIX
• Give players reason to skill, no more noob ath, more meaning to skills 9 FIX and UNFIX (Lol)
• More functions to pets, taming, pets in city, appartment, pets as itemcarrier, rideable,flyable 8 STILL NOT HERE
• Useless, dull, static buildings, Hadesheim 8 FIXED (no more hadesheim, easy fix)
• Color coding in friendslist, sortable, selectable for custom messaging,soc friends 8 FIX
• Type in exact coords for teleporting 8 DUNNO
• Contracts/system for lending/borrowing/renting/crafting 8 STILL NOT HERE
• Vehicles,Boats, Planes, etc 7 FIX
• Fly up to cnd/cp and will still get white screen and pilots chatting 7 FIX with space
• Mindforce expanded/updated 7 FIX
• Sharing of estates/hangars, for couples,co-owners and societies 7 STILL NOT HERE
• No auto-tidy feature for storage, Automerge stackables, auto placement 7 HALF FIX
• Lack of nightlife, bars, functioning jukebox with more songs, atlas radio, beer 6 STILL NOT HERE (unless you count club neverdie)
• Access inventory while in team , priority given to things under inventory screen 6 DUNNO
• While looting , camera zooms out 6 FIX (but not with globals)
• Team: share location info, easy locating, GPS 6 FIX
• No disable/ignore incoming pm's/system messages 6 FIX
• More content in NPC's, add storylines,quests, missions like raid the thorifoid temple 6 FIX/HALF FIX
• No more: this creature has no loot 5 FIX
• Birthdate and last login on avatar info/history 5 FIX
• Use pecs in auction 5 STILL NOT HERE (a reason to have a shop)
• More activities that can be done for free 5 FIX
• Different damage types and effects on mobs. shrapnel,cold, mobs are immune to some dmg 5 STILL NOT HERE
• Inability to color/texture each field seperately 5 DUNNO
• Incomplete parts of the world, finish amethera, sell the land 5 HALF FIX
• Events more visible, bigger announcements in time, deeper stories/development, more events for noobs, destructed cities 5 NOT REALLY
• Unfixed bugs in general 4 DUNNO
• Text disappears when switching all/soc chat 4 FIX
• Society structure needs more features 4 STILL NOT HERE
• After al tab, loss of focus, closing windows 4
• When exiting eu, having to kill the process (vista/win7) 4
• Appartment balcony item placement,patio 4 HALF FIX
• Storage/soc terminal on cp 4 DUNNO
• Manufacturing button freezes all other actions, chat 4 FIX
• Ingame calculator 4 STILL NOT HERE
• Ingame webbrowser 4 STILL NOT HERE
• Public transit for cp/cnd , or automation to hangars 4 BROKEN
• Actual visual of the ship when it;s moving, both inside and outside 4 FIX
• Better disciple system, skills for mentors, goody pack after graduating 4 FIX/UNFIX/FIX/UNFIX
• (un)equip full armour set option, fix waiting time, assemble sets 4
• Screen shakeing while bombing 3
• No hotkey to close loot window 3
• Improve arrival area, sandbox, training area 3
• More items/no limit on items in estates 3
• Faster skilling 3
• Chat logging 3
• No dome 5 at CP 3
• Lack of destructable environments, buildings blown up during events 3
• Participant content too expensive 3
• Avatar status in FL, busy, afk 3
• One pec armour/clothes fee 3
• More hitboxes on mobs/ppl 3
• Value in peds on loot/claims 2
• Remove auto-claims, make unknown finds fun again 2
• Less then 40% return on deposits, better short term balance 2
• Event system bug, winner doesnt receive all decay and ammo 2
• Loosing focus when relogging 2
• Improve event system, person of importance 2
• Better marketing needed 2
• Loot in text (as in team), chatscreen 2
• Failure low % and random results with texturing/coloring 2
• Decay of swords only when you hit something 2
• Avatar movement is dull, weird jumping 2
• More screen space in boxes 2
• Invisible avatar/building bug 2
• Screens/signs one item point, useable in booth, walls useable 2
• Uninformative/dismissive replies(copy/paste) from support 2
• PEDS back in loot 2
• PvP is too unbalanced, more zones like radar free 2
• Biodomes, give them a purpose 2
• Remove CND auction transport fee 2
• Constant warning amp needs replacing, close to reaching minimum condition 2
• Put claim markers on radar 2
• Cheap mini-landareas 2
• Team disband removes all the health bars 2
• Better development of the profession healer, use of plants,stones,mushrooms for healing 2
• Remove empty drilling time from excavators 2
• Ingame Notepad 2
• Ingame Screengrab 2
• Ingame Mp3 player 2
• Land area entry/exit message annoucements, icon that glows instead of current system 2
• Mobs getting in the way of healing 2
• Chat screen background sometimes barely readable 2
• Bring back old school clothes loots, rarely 2
• Currence from usd to euro 2
• Fix items,(hides) weight 2
• TP-land in the direction you started 2
• Item crafted by: 2
• Gems have a reason to exist, give crafted items more meaning 2
• More room in inventory, remove grid 2
• Alliance system (friendly societies), society wars 2
• Stop the damned L weapons/armour 2
• Lack of weather influence 1
• Too small auction items 1
• Lack of bitch slap 1
• Less ath's or don't compensate ath with normal loot 1
• Scanner won't find guns, finders faps 1
• L-items usable to tt=0 1
• Trashcan in inventory 1
• No unusable L in auction 1
• Billies, graphics update 1
• Message box navigation, running shooting, typing all at the same time 1
• Money out of trade window scam 1
• Different look for friend requests 1
• Skip to page in auction 1
• New professions with new items. 1
• Too high tt on clothes 1
• Newly introduced stuff never drops (dark paints etc) 1
• Warning msg when rent needs paying 1
• Impossible to reach high levels text/coloring 1
• Repetitiveness 1
• No hotkey for manufacture button 1
• Right gunner seat bug 1
• Ship disappearance 1
• HUD bug 1
• After relog ship is up, pilot down 1
• Signs won't stick outside of hangar 1
• Society option on storage 1
• AFK on phone posture 1
• Regulators, scam police 1
• Bad L weapon markup balance (eco) 1
• Ability to copy/paste advert text (in chat) 1
• To be able to type "Æ" "Å" 1
• Too much antisocial behaviour/rulebreaking without consequence 1
• More effeciency info about mining amps in item details 1
• Customise/personalise emotes 1
• Stuck mobs in objects 1
• Auto loot option 1
• TT fruit, dung, sweat 1
• Less failures while sweating 1
• Harder mobs cost more, but do not yield an advantage over easier mobs 1
• Skill values are not weighed the same 1
• Armour points assignable to type of protection 1
• Less missed shots 1
• My items on website not always the same as ingame 1
• Unlootable mobs sinking away in terrain 1
• Mining claims inside objects 1
• Easier way to view tt of skills, buy skill 1
• More interesting loot 1
• L-guns that last longer 1
• More detailed mining, mining by terranial features 1
• Ingame transaction accounting tool 1
• Shortcut to minimise chat window 1
• Unable to msg ppl not in FL 1
• Remove not being able to move while refining 1
• Reduce weight of refiners/scanners 1
• Third person birds view objects lag 1
• One days warning before updates 1
• Remove items from auction order list, that do not exist anymore 1
• Comment terminal for an estate 1
• Gaps between sib are too long 1
• Remember id/pw client login check box 1
• Return decoy dispenser reload time 1
• Fix agility raise 1
• Fix araneatrox hp regen amount/speed 1
• Bind keys for autotext 1
• Missing a mob, unless moving in between shots bug 1
• Abandoning ce2 roadmap, fix bugs first 1
• Return insult emote 1
• Lack of unl items 1
• Support giving different answers to the same question 1
• Bugs returning (that were fixed in another vu) 1
• Reverse mob regen 1
• Looting the wrong sex armour 1
• Blood,gore,violence,destruction 1
• Setting waypoint when running 1
• Unable to login for a minute when cut off 1
• False message when trying to login 1
• Skill values not balanced 1
• Areas imposssible to see long distance 1
• Open loot window only for global/hof checkbox 1
• Ship items/stackables/ped to other players 1
• Better incentive for L items 1
• Fix SIB on mining finders 1
• BLP damage seems broken compared to hit 1
• Melee amps (giev) 1
• 99% of mob killed, die, tp in, mob fully regen scam 1
• Kill someone in pvp 4, not get loot 1
• More models for armour, weapons 1
• Factories 1
• Cashcard 1
• Insane skillgain at high level 1
• Return underwater mining 1
• Rebinding weapons, after moved out of inventory 1
• More excitement to hunting, not just click click click 1
• More diversity in mobs damage types 1
• More RL economy rules, mindark as government 1
• Booking system for space travel 1
• Direction signs at CP 1
• With a new vu not thinking about new features, but new nerfs 1
• Amp nerf 1
• Lockable items (protects it from ttéd) 1
• Fix healthbar glitch during spacetravel 1
• Mobs attack eachother 1
• PVP only in pvp zones and rings 1
• Allow pec markup in shops 1
• Estate terminals always show the real estate owner 1
• More dance moves 1
• More Participant content other then video/paintings 1
• More postures for mannequins 1
• Appatments complexes look the same 1
• Nudity (at least in own appartment) 1
• Jump off balconies 1
• More underground areas 1
• Recruits have input on their soc term info section 1
• Cant trade full boxes 1
• Display guns with amps/laser/scope 1
• No progresssion after Killstrike/commando 1
• No more hardcoded keys 1
• Placing items bug 1
• Confirm button for compact 1
• Better crosshairs 1
• Customizable HUD 1
• Bring laser pointer back 1
• More updates with new content 1
• Focus on tp chips 1
• Fix side seats in spaceships 1
• Stable in every city 1
• New users select own start tp 1
• Estate deeds in loot 1
• More unl melee with sib 1
• Unl sib weapons decay full instead of 50% 1
• Return old items to mindark shops (punisher, clothes) 1
• Different items in trade terminals in different cities 1
• MakeVote booths work 1
• Saving accounts in bank 1
• Force trade channel 1
• Delete yourself from somebodies fl 1
• More togetherness in interface 1
• More appreciation for older players 1
• Better texture mapping 1
• Better architecture 1
• Drop fruit/dung in appartments 1
• Shopitems in shop terminal 1
• No double movement buttons 1
• Ahh, the egg 1
• Portable ammo converter 1
• Portable repair 1
• Friends chat (as soc chat) 1
• Teammate finder 1
• Protected zones for certain player levels 1
• Skill modification scopes explained 1
• More uses for items (eg crafting) 1
• More "goals" like in beacon missions 1
• Earn money from advertising, instead from players 1
• Better depth system with mining 1
• Coloring system too difficult 1
• Change default third person camera angle 1
• Takes notes of ccp game 1
• Allow items to be looted if alone in team 1
• Markup alert indicator on trade window 1
• Auction also webbased for fulltime job players 1
• Theatre for live performances 1
• Change pc display so full length movies can be uploaded 1
• More watermobs 1
• Scuba gear necessary to stay underwater 1
• Ships, pirates,trading routes 1
• Tunnels that connect the continents 1
• Space battles 1
• Shadowmages shop bug cnd #21 1
• Amps for everything 1
• Setup x customised channels in chat 1
• Name your landarea(longuland) instead of LA34 1
• New advertising options, rent a sign at pa 1
• Separated markets, 0,05 in twin peaks, 0.25 pecs in eudoria, 0.5 world 1
• Mobs a bit different 1
• No more fruit instaspawn, fruit must grow 1
• Botany profession 1
• EU disconnects when alt-tab in non window mode 1
• SIB items give skills always 1
• See exact values for hp/skills 1
• Value of single item in stack 1
• Truncated ped card values 1
• More depth in the economy #143 1
• More footguards 1
• Revamp CP 1
• Buy additional storage boxes from mindark upto 1k items 1
• Caves, Torkells Tomb, with boorum 1
• PVP-city 1
• Moveable mining indicator screen 1
• Remove drilling from mining 1
• Activity Achievement Award Points 1
• Ongoing Golden-Age awarding PAR edition item rewards 1
• Bringing structure/Economic Modeling to planet Calypso 1
• Poll for good ideas from this thread 1
• Bring back the orbs 1
• Ghostly bug, chats while alone 1
• Introduce tameable cats and dogs 1
• Making picking of tent available only for it's owner 1
• Miner bots enter the robot mine building,area, more action 1
• Team mining 1
• Remove white screen while tping 1
• Unlocks past level 100 1
• Fix attributes skillgain 1
• Higher L faps poorly balanced compared to imp/mod 1
• A mob that cost 1 ped to kill perhaps should loot 100x max the cost to kill 1

 

Even though we are miles apart with our attitude towards MindArk Spawn credit to you for compiling such a long list of suggestions and improvements.

 

I am going to make a new list McCormick, I will make sure to add yours.

 

could we maybe agree to forget the old shit and compile a new list of current unsolved/unfixed things?

some people who paid a buck are still a bit sour about their issues ... luckily i'm not one of them

as example, stables. or is this topic closed now and lets move on, buggers?

the statues are almost as funny as the unique egg already. still my personal bet we'll see them first, easy fix for a problem that wouldn't exist if they didn't do it the MA way before as usual. i mean c'mon it fucking doesn't matter if they sold 20 or 1 statues for 500 dollars "only". whoever needs more than a day to develope this statue has to be shot off this planet in a SpaceX rocket :D

i could add another thing that bothered me. trying to sell UL quad alikes for 50k when you couldn't sell a privateer for 40k ... they are killing their PVP space at the same time they try to convince people to do more challenging stuffs (batsim my ass)

we get back to the point where it seems like an issue of the people in charge, not of the game itself ... so a merry FU from your prophet & gn8, EU is not my problem anymore in the end. i became part time customer, way to go?